I’m often asked about how to play the penny whistle and have found the following helpful:
No question that a nice selection of tunes can be a helpful part of learning to play whistle (or other instrument). And markbell is a long-time good friend of the Chiffboard.
But Whistle & Squeak is not primarily an instructional site. And I see nothing on the other hammered dulcimer link that is whistle-oriented. Am I missing something?
Between Brother Steve, Ryan Duns, Michael Eskin, and a few others, good tutorials are certainly out there. Maybe there ought to be a concise Sticky.
I was thinking about this today (the creation of a Sticky regarding good learning resources). I think it would be a real help. So here’s my vote that you would undertake the endeavor ![]()
BTW - I’m not sure if Ryan is redoing his tutorials, but it seems that way.
http://www.tinwhistler.blogspot.com/
I wrote him to ask if he envisioned this replacing the Fordham set. I will put something up if I hear back from him.
The two web sites have a nice selection of Folk, Traditional, Classical, Hymns, etc… with sound clips. Although basic, it is nice for a beginner to hear the clip and then play the piece. Brother Steve whistle site quite a nice resource and great examples, with insights and content:
I agree that a sticky thread would be nice. A lot of new folks drop in, and it would help them get to some good learning resources. It’s a topic that comes around on a regular basis.
I didn’t even bother trying to create instruction or tutorial stuff on Whistle and Squeak, because there was already a lot of good material out there - better than I was likely to create.
Mark
I firmly believe that if you give a kid music, it will be a livelong gift.
Seeing this thread reminded me of my promise.
I reckon this is just an expansion. I receive a lot of correspondence asking for help so I’m trying to help out!
It sounds like these may go a little beyond the Fordham set (although the new set seems to be on hold).
Love to see a sticky of “Learning Materials for Whistle.” I’m in process of gathering a list of such sites for a handout at a workshop this summer. If you had a sticky I’ll bet I’d only have to give folks one URL!
Oh yes, please make this a sticky. ![]()
How many web sites have you found… that are Whistle Tutorials ? Check this out:
I’ve learned from those sites as well (Brother Steve and Ryan Dunn especially). I also used Comhaltas extensively to get reliable recordings of tunes to use as a baseline, and ventured out onto youtube to hear other variations (as well as whistlethis.com and tinwhistletunes.com). Having a couple of sites where I can hear several correct variations was helpful to me… especially after hearing the ‘horror stories’ about people playing it all wrong in session and being gently (or not so gently) guided by a more experienced musician.
Another thing that I had struggled with in the past was figuring out what tunes I wanted to learn. Ryan Dunn’s course helped a bit with that, even though I really didn’t learn things in his order. I ended up contacting my local slow sessions and using a list of their favorite sets to get going. I’m not sure I want to play sessions right now, but expect that I will before the year is out.
For people with even less access to an actual session, or those that don’t want to play sessions, it would be useful to have a “suggested set list”, so the beginner will have some clue what is a reasonable goal to aim for. Personally, I think it should have a set of each type of tune (reel, jig, hornpipe, polka, etc) at a beginner level, to further encourage the beginner to learn varied music, and not concentrate just on one type. Of course, hashing out an “official C&F tunebook” is going to be tricky at best. ![]()
These lists are not aimed at whistle, but are aimed at either Irish or Scottish/Irish players. I hope they will be of use and not just a waste of space.
If you want a somewhat scary large collection of common tunes by type check out
Reels: 300 some-odd "essential" Irish session reels on The Session
Jigs: 150 or so "essential" Irish session jigs on The Session
Hornpipes: Some "essential" hornpipres for Irish sessions on The Session
Polkas: 71 widely played polkas on The Session
Slip jigs: 41 (and counting) slip jigs widely played at Irish sessions on The Session
The lists were put together by Will Harmon who is a long time player and teacher in, of all things, Helena Montana. He’s responsible for the Helena tune books too which are huge and rather wonderful collections of tunes. No chords though for those who insist on such things. I suspect this would be a good, if huge, starting point.
Here’s a much shorter list that seems pretty good (I don’t remember the source), though I must admit I’m not enough of a session player to know if this is the things that nobody wants to play anymore or the things folks folks expect from those getting started. I do know they are many tunes I enjoy on the list:
REELS
The Banshee [James McMahon]
The Bird In The Bush
The Bucks Of Oranmore
The Concertina Reel
The Congress
Cooley’s (Luttrell’s Pass)
The Cup Of Tea
Drowsy Maggie
Farewell To Ireland
Father Kelly’s (Rossmore Jetty)
The Foxhunter’s
The Gravel Walks
The High Reel
The Humours Of Tulla
The Maid Behind The Bar
The Man Of The House
The Merry Blacksmith
Miss McLeod’s
The Mountain Road [Michael Gorman]
The Pigeon On The Gate
Rolling In The Ryegrass (The Shannon Breeze)
Saint Anne’s
The Sally Gardens
The Silver Spear
The Star Of Munster
The Wise Maid (All Around The World)
JIGS
Banish Misfortune
The Blackthorn Stick
The Blarney Pilgrim
The Cliffs Of Moher
The Connaughtman’s Rambles
Donnybrook Fair (The Joy Of My Life)
The Irish Washerwoman
The Kesh
Lannigan’s Ball
The Lark In The Morning
The Lilting Banshee
Morrison’s
My Darling Asleep
Out On The Ocean
The Pipe On The Hob
The Rakes Of Kildare
Tripping Up The Stairs
HORNPIPES & SET DANCES
The Boys Of Bluehill
Harvest Home
King Of The Fairies
Off To California
The Rights Of Man
SLIP JIGS
The Choice Wife (An Phis Fhliuch)
Drops Of Brandy
The Foxhunter’s
The Kid On The Mountain
HOP JIGS
The Butterfly
The Rocky Road To Dublin
SLIDES
Merrily Kissed The Quaker’s Wife
The Road To Lisdoonvarna
POLKAS
Denis Murphy’s
Egan’s
John Ryan’s (The Keadue)
The Rakes Of Mallow
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Finally, here’s a list some friends put together when they started up an session devoted to Scottish and Irish tunes where they live. It has the advantage of taking things in some sort of difficulty order (at least that was their intention), and the disadvantage of containing more jigs and polkas than one might find in many sessions as well as many tunes that might be on the “too common to play list.”
Tunes Everyone should know
Ballydesmond Polka
Bill Sullivan’s Polka
Blackthorn Stick (jig)
Denis Murphy’s (Polka)
Flowers of Edinburg
Hundred Pipers
Jamie Allen
John Ryan’s Polka
Kitty Magee (jig)
Maids of Ardagh (polka)
Mairi’s Wedding (polka)
Muckin’ o’ Geordie’s Byre (jig)
Red Haired Boy (reel)
Road to Lisdoonvarna (slide/jig)
Rose Tree
Shandon Bells
Smash the Windows
Southwind
Swallowtail Jig
Temperance Reel
Tobin’s Favorite (jig)
Next Level
An Irishman’s Heart to the Ladies (jig)
Arran Boat Song
Boys of Bluehill (hornpipe)
Coleraine (jig)
Drowsy Maggie (reel)
Kesh Jig
Lanagan’s Ball (slide/jig)
Off She Goes
Off to California (hornpipe)
Rakes of Kildare (jig)
Rickett’s Hornpipe
Rights of Man (hornpipe)
Scully’s Reel
Sheebag Sheemore (take your pick on spellings ![]()
Tenpenny Bit (jig)
Garryowen (jig)
Tripping up Stairs (jig)
Wind that Shakes the Barley (reel)
Expand your repertoire
Calliope House (jig)
Cliffs of Moher (jig)
Father Kelly’s (Rossmore Jetty) (reel)
Greenfields of America (reel)
Irish Washerwoman (jig)
Maid Behind the Bar (reel)
Morrison’s Jig
Mud of Brown Ale (jig)
O’Keefe’s Slide
Rollicking Irishman (Jig)
Star of Munster (reel)
The Banshee (reel)
The Merry Blacksmith (reel)
Trip to Sligo (jig)
Multipart tunes
Banish Misfortune (jig)
Butterfly (hop jig/slip jig)
Jig of Slurs
Merrily Kiss the Quaker (slide)
The King of the Fairies (hornpipe?)
Most Advanced
Chier O’Neal’s Favorite (hornpipe)
Cronin’s Hornpipe
Julia Delaney (reel)
Kid on the Mountain (Slip Jig)
Mason’s Apron (reel)
Morpath Rant (reel)
Ships are Sailing (reel)
Speed the Plow (reel)
Oh Yeah,
There is also the “Twin Cities Slow Session” collection still available some places (I have it in pdf, but do not have permission to send it to folks..I might be able to get that permission if someone is particularly interested), and at
http://karenashbrook.com/monthly_session.html
You can down load a pdf file for the session tunes for the Children’s session that Karen Ashbrook put together. Lovely tunes nicely presented, and good starting points for adults too.
There are lots of other lists and collections of common session tunes. This is more than enough from me!
Yes. There are lots and lots of tunes… too many for the beginner, who will have no idea what is appropriate as a starting point. I was just thinking if we’re giving them links to resources, it would be nice to point them at a starting repetoire as well. I’m sure that question is asked all the time.
I was just thinking if we’re giving them links to resources, it would be nice to point them at a starting repetoire as well. I’m sure that question is asked all the time.
If you look at the last two lists I posted you’ll see that one apparently is common tunes and the other common tunes organized for starting out. It seems to me they fit your bill.
I am just starting to play with other people and also listening a lot (and drinking beer) where people are playing. I am finding that a lot of players (in England) really do know most of the tunes that appear on the various “tunes everyone should know” lists like the one cboody gave. Not only that but the tunes that “nobody wants to play any more” get played rather more than you would expect from the way people moan about them on the internet. At a festival in Scotland last year I was listening to a session, at a level that I will probably never reach, ‘led’ by members of a well known band. At on point when a lot of players on the outside of the circle had not been playing they started what ended up as a set of about 6 of those common tunes. Everybody joined in and made a great atmosphere.
So for me its
to not learning the common tunes (for now…).
Yes. There are lots and lots of tunes… too many for the beginner, who will have no idea what is appropriate as a starting point. I was just thinking if we’re giving them links to resources, it would be nice to point them at a starting repetoire as well. I’m sure that question is asked all the time.
Yes… I get request from " Kids Corner " several times a month on how to get started playing the #Pennywistle. The list is great but
… for a beginner a little scary
… what’s the beginners “short list” for real beginners… and the resources for them to learn to play… To aid them in getting started.
Some time ago, while on Lurk Mode, I read this thread
The CD in that thread is all young beginners playing and it’s really inspiring stuff.
If you have a fast internet connect and are looking for children’s starting places you might want to check out
http://karenashbrook.com/monthly_session.html
for the children’s session book I mentioned above. I stuck the file together, but the choices of tunes come from Karen and other fine players, not from me!
This is limited to Celtic music and session kinds of music, but has lots of quite simple tunes. Karen is a fine whistle and flute player (as well as being one of the best players of Irish trad on Hammered Dulcimer). I’m sure that background palyed a part in her selections and the “outline” she selected for the tunes.
How young children? I don’t teach at that level and I’d hesitate to guess. Surely simple nursery tunes would be a better first tune and surely one might want to teach by ear and by imitation rather than note reading, but I do think this are worth looking at.
No question that a nice selection of tunes can be a helpful part of learning to play whistle (or other instrument). And markbell is a long-time good friend of the Chiffboard.
Maybe there ought to be a concise Sticky.
I was thinking about this today (the creation of a Sticky regarding good learning resources). I think it would be a real help. So here’s my vote that you would undertake the endeavor
I agree that a sticky thread would be nice. A lot of new folks drop in, and it would help them get to some good learning resources. It’s a topic that comes around on a regular basis.
Love to see a sticky of “Learning Materials for Whistle.” I’m in process of gathering a list of such sites for a handout at a workshop this summer.
Oh yes, please make this a sticky.
Some time ago, while on Lurk Mode, I read this thread
The CD in that thread is all young beginners playing and it’s really inspiring stuff.
I likes diggin’ up old stuff and some of it is very useful “One mans old stuff and all that malarky”
A very resourceful thread that would be very useful as a Stickied Resource as the content is still sought after by many beginners still at this time in December 2012 ![]()