OT:What would be Latin for "Who in hell invited her?

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - American singer Lauryn Hill, from a stage used by the Pope, shocked Catholic officials at a concert by telling them to “repent” and alluding to sexual abuse of children by U.S. priests.

The broadside came during the recording Saturday night of a Christmas concert attended by top Vatican cardinals, bishops and many elite of Italian society, witnesses said.

Hill made her comments when taking the microphone to sing at the concert, held in the same huge hall and stage Pope John Paul uses for his weekly general audiences and other events. The Pope was not present.

“I did not come here to celebrate the birth of Christ with you but to ask you why you are not in mourning for his death inside this place,” she said according to a transcript of her statement run by the Rome newspaper La Repubblica.

A spokesman for Prime Time Productions, the concert’s organizers, said the newspaper’s quotes were accurate.

“God has been a witness to the corruption of his leadership, of the exploitation and abuses … by the clergy,” she said.

This was an apparent reference to the scandal in the United States last year over the sexual abuse of children by priests.

Hill told the crowd to seek blessings “from God not men” and said she did “not believe in representatives of God on earth.”

A few feet away in the front row sat five cardinals, including Edmund Szoka, American governor of Vatican City.

Hill, 28, did not sing the song listed on the program but instead sang a song about social injustice.

Organizers said Hill’s outburst and performance would most probably be cut from the show when it is aired on Christmas Eve.

Hill shot to fame in the mid-1990s with band The Fugees, whose album “The Score” sold 17 million copies, to become one of the biggest hip-hop chart successes of all time.

Who did invite her? And via what life experiences does one acquire the mindset that this sort of rudeness is the correct behavior?

There are times and places where going against the grain are necessary…but really…

(I really wish I had taken Latin…but in this case caveat emptor, just sub event planner for emptor.)

What’s so stunning about her being invited is that there has been an abundance of press about how erratic and bizarre her behavior has been in recent years, including the fact that she has been following some lone guru, “Brother Anthony”, who claims unique abilities to interpret scripture. Anyway, looks like the Vatican vetting process made a major boo-boo.

A major “Ooops”, to be sure.

i guess time and the place would b when u get the chance i would think… and maybe the subject she was talking about went above good manners…

Remember in the 1980s (late '80s?) when Sinead O’Connor tore up that picture of the Pope on Saturday Night Live, saying something like, “Fight the real enemy!”?

I guess that wasn’t Vatican planners screwing up . . . :wink:

Stuart

I’m not particularly prone to criticize her for speaking out for abuse victims and against the abuse of Church authority, even in that venue. She also took the opportunity for some general anti-catholic remarks, not related to abuse. But, my real point was, how did this get by the planners?

I can’t comment on the subject, but I can help with the original question. After hours of research and searching through my old college latin textbooks, I believe the proper translation for “Who in hell invited her” is "
Owhay inway ellhay invitedway erhay".

Then again, I never really did pay attention in that class :laughing:

She’s just gotta join the Dixie Chicks.

If I were making a list of performers to ask to sing at a Christmas concert attended by the Vatican, Lauryn Hill wouldn’t be the first artist to come to mind . . . Gee, maybe next year they can get Missy Elliott to sing “Work It”! Or maybe AC/DC can sing “Highway to Hell”!

Can we look at it from another perspective?

What if she’s one of those people who drag us kicking and screaming into the direction we ought to go…?

Like John Brown, Elizabeth Cady Stanton and Susan B. Anthony, and Martin Luther King?

Reviled and ridiculed in their time, but ultimately proven right, even if some of their methods were wrong. (John Brown planned to arm a slave revolt with pikes, for pete’s sake.)

Could be…it takes tuggin’ to move a barge…but as Dale says, interesting that they invited her.

Now don’t quote me on this because the grammar is probably off..
but the literal translation would be…
" Quis in inferi invitare suus?"!!!
Have fun!

Yeah, Mystee you have to conjugate…

Quis in Tartarus invitabat illa?


Dang, someone should have known that Lauryn Hill would be a controversial guest. May as well have invited Sinead O’Connar.


tibias quae ex stanno fiant dicitur hic.
(Tin whistles spoken here.)

Sinead would have been better. She actually apologized for her actions.

I have to agree…someone in events planning at the Vatican was definitely not on the ball.

Redwolf

The poeple who booked that show must be the same intellegent ones who
choose the entertainment for sporting events like halftime at the superbowl. Those people need to find new jobs such as elevator music composers :laughing:

I had never heard of this person until I read Dale’s post. My first reaction was, ‘now, that took guts.’ If she’s wacky and prone to off-the-wall behavior, it’s not so impressive. It’s still pretty cool, though. Making generalized slams against the Catholic church is dumb in that it undermines her credibility, but rubbing the cardinals’ collective noses in their wrongs, well, right on! That kind of thing usually only happens in a movie. Made me think of the Old Testament prophets crying out about repenting. Would have been something if they had ganged up and beat her up. I wonder how it would be handled if someone pulled something like that at a White House concert for the president- on live television.
Tony

Dale, I was kind of amazed seeing you post this thing. I thought it would have fanned a flame war. But a reasonable question you posed, none-the-less.

I think that she displayed very poor manners. When you are invited to someone’s home, you don’t use that venue to criticize them. I never agree with the church on matters of doctrine and faith, but in this case I think she displayed a very ungracious attitude towards her hosts. Of course, whoever invited her needs to think a bit deeper before he makes up the list. Next time do the Vienna Boys Choir (ha ha ha…sh!..)

Or was frustrated with their own inability to get the Vatican to take the American problem seriously and invited her hoping for exactly what happened…

Just playing devil’s advocate…