OT (partly) - Greatest Rock&Roll Band Ever

Tonight when we got home from dinner, lo and behold a free televised Rolling Stones concert at Madison Square Garden, with special guest Cheryl Crow. ALways my favorite R&R band, still together longer than anybody, still active, in shape, more energy than anybody, and plug ugly - never any surgery or the like.

That’s my boys!

Philo

AMEN!!
Say the HBO concert tonight and saw the “boys” inperson at Gillette Stadium Foxboro, Ma. this summer.
They truely ROCK.

Saw them live a long time ago from the front row of the balcony of the old Madison Square Garden. What a show. I can recall it as if it was yesterday. The electricity and energy that came off of the stage was incredible. Had to sit or stand in the front row or would have missed it all because no one sat for a minute once it started. I am jealous that you got to see a free show. Fran

I’ve always loved the Stones. Wilma is my favorite.

The Stones have long been billed as “the world’s greatest rock and roll band”, but, as with anything, since there are so many different “styles” of rock that you can’t really say one band is better than the other - better at what they do, perhaps.

The Stones have been together longer than any other rock band (in one incarnation or another), but, in my opinion, they’ve never produced any original music that had a major influence on rock and roll as a whole. The Beatles, for what it’s worth, could well lay claim to being the greatest ever for the simple reason that they changed the way others looked at, wrote, and played rock and roll forever.
Just my $.02. :wink:

~Larry

“…never any surgery or the like.”

I’ve been told Keith Richard was embalmed in the mid 80’s… do you think there is there any truth to that statement?

On 2003-01-19 08:42, Tony wrote:
“…never any surgery or the like.”

I’ve been told Keith Richard was embalmed in the mid 80’s… do you think there is there any truth to that statement?

Well, he sure looks like the walking dead. :smiley:

~Larry

On 2003-01-19 08:42, Tony wrote:
“…never any surgery or the like.”

I’ve been told Keith Richard was embalmed in the mid 80’s… do you think there is there any truth to that statement?

I think the Stones have ingested plenty of chemicals, some of them may have a preservative effect. As far as the greatest R&R band ever, while the RS are great, I would have to give my vote to the Beatles as well.

IMO, Rolling Stones records should come with a warning sticker ‘best before 1975’. That was a long, long time ago.

Probably right Wombat,-'Exile on Main Street’is my favourite Stones album(very influential to a lot of Rock bands too).

I saw the Stones a few years ago in Norman, Okla. One of the musical highlights of my life. I’d been listening to recordings of their music for 40 years, but that night, there they were, close enough that I could see where they were looking, playing for me!..

My opinion has always been that the Beatles were a pop group and the Stones were rock and roll.

My vote for the best rock and roll group goes to The Who.

Well the Stones were great, and they
were, at their best, sort of a blues
band. They couldn’t have done a lot
of the stuff the Beatles did,
for instance, vaudeville stuff like
‘when I am 64,’ or ‘Beachboys’ stuff
like ‘back in the USSR.’ They would
have sounded kinda silly being
‘psychodelic.’ Or imagine
adding a cello. But oh my
the Stones did what they did best
better than anybody else could,
I think. The Beatles were perhaps more
creative, in their way, and more influential;
otherwise apples, oranges.

Yes Holt,Your mum could like ‘The Beatles’,but ‘The Stones’ were the ‘bad lads’.I almost wrote ‘Bad examples’ when I remembered seeing a photo of an American ‘beat group’ with that name in an old copy of 'Downbeat’Mag. They were dressed in suits,the tenor sax player wore horn-rimmed glasses- You’d have to have been brought up by extreme Puritans to have considered them anything but wholesome! (then again-what were their lyrics like? who knows they may have been the Marilyn Mansons of 60’s rock!).I digress. The Stones are interesting in their longevity- but why NOT continue to play on? After all,their original models were black American bluesmen who played until they died.Why not? look at John Lee Hooker’s(R.I.P.) long career,as an example of someone making good music into old age.

I tend to agree with bdatki just because the Who seemed to have a greater dimension to them in their projects. But the Stones have always been more blue-sy for sure. The other element in Brit rock is this dance hall vaudeville thing, which McCartney is definitely akin to.

And while the Stones didnt get embalmed, they did have that blood replacement thing to get off heroin right before tour. Lovely.

Had they more staying power, I would have voted for the Kinks. They were awesome. I was pretty young, but I remember vividly the British Invasion, its pychedelic follow-up and this whole cornucopia of groups. I really liked Eric Burdon and the Animals too, but they just didn’t last that long.

Hey, I was in the Herman’s Hermits fan club even when I was about 10…I had a subscription to Hit Parader so I could sing along…

Another day, another time…

meh. led zeppelin was better…


:wink:

I agree with Led Zep, they were on the cutting edge for a while. One of my favorite of their numbers was “The Lemon Song”. After enjoying it for 15 years or so, I found a 12 bar blues arrangement of it that appears to have been recorded about 60 years ago, most of the same lyrics, very different arrangement by one old man and his flat-top!


I knew if I looked hard enough I’d find it, Robert Johnson, June 30 1937 “Traveling Riverside Blues” last verse.


Tommy

[ This Message was edited by: Holt on 2003-01-19 21:05 ]

I was just listening to the radio and the Zep song “I’ve Got a Woman” came on. Is that a mandolin in there? That would work as a folk song with a little less bass and drums and a more subdued vocal, don’t you think?

I like the Stones, the Who and Led Zep, (not the Beatles so much) but all of them owe a huge debt to Muddy Waters, Robert Johnson, Charly Patton, etc. It wasn’t until I started listening to those old recordings that I really became obsessed with music.

Led Zeppelin used the old mannalin on another song, “The Battle of Evermore”, so it probably was a mandolin in that song.

Speaking of Led Zepelin. Remember the Woodstock weekend? Well that weekend I was at the Atlantic City convention center (I think that’s what it was) to see one of the greatest concerts ever - both Led Zepelin and Leon Russell and Joe Cocker with Mad Dogs and Englishmen, about a 26 piece ensemble including dynamite female backup singers and horns. Awesome.

Whoever said apples and oranges was right. All (Beatles, Stones, Who, Zepelin)different types of bands, all great. While we’re at it, I also saw the very last ever concert at the Fillmore East in The (Greenwich)Village - it was Sunday night the final of a seven day appearance there by Crosby Stills Nash and Young. The first half was all acoustic and Stevie Stills did a beautiful 20-minute piano solo jazz piece. Post intermission, they came back with the heavy full band electrics. Some things you never forget.

Philo