Thanks to a member of this board who’s willing to work for whistles, my site has a new look. I’ll let the person identify him or herself, if they want to. Check it out if you dare.
Wow, David, it looks good! (cough). If I’d done it though (cough), I’d have (hint) centered the Tin Whistle Web Ring box on the bottom of the first page.
LOL!.. OK… I did do it (except for the left-leaning webring box… probably a political conspiracy).
I hope folks find it easy to navigate.
Thanks for the opportunity to trade, David.
after-thought … now, looking at your avatar, and my avatar… I must like that font… yup… I think I’ll work up a new avatar for myself.
Great job! It really looks great, and I’m finding it easy to navigate thus far 
Very nice.
Thanks! And thanks to the CFer who shared some observations about alternate browser problems. Appreciate the input!!
edited for spelling
I dunno about “alternate browser problems” but I do know that some of us out here are not at 1024x768 resolution.
Sideways scrolling is such a bitch. Sometimes when I find it I just give up on the site and surf elsewhere.
It’s always better to plan pages that adjust downward from your optimum (known in “the biz” as “degrading gracefully”).
It does have a good look, but maybe it’s my browser version?? IE 6.0
I’m having a lot of overlapping graphics issues just so you’re aware of it.
The front page menu overlaps the textbox a hair, and on the testimonials page the knot graphic starts getting out of line and overlapping the customer comments as you scroll down the page.
I dunno. Almost seems like graphics were done with an absolute, and the text with a table and they slowly move away from eachother (or get out of alignment I guess?) possibly?
When I get home I’ll check it w/ Netscape and Konquerer on my Linux box.
Great design and graphics. Nice and clean. Simple navigation. The way a site should be!!
Take care,
John
I think that is part of the problem. The program used in this case is Yahoo’s PageBuilder, and that does seem to be the way it is set up. This is the first time I’ve used it instead of setting my own HTML code. It is desirable in that it allows the owner, David, to continue to have the option of inserting things himself as he finds the need, and since he doesn’t know HTML, this program is handy. However, it does have some limitations.
I don’t have the expertise to make the site self-editable, and he doesn’t have the time to become HTML fluent… ah compromise. Of course, he could just keep me on retainer with an unending supply of new and wonderful whistles, 
Thanks for you observations. We’ll see what we can do.
Hmmm… I’ll have to see what we can do about that. It is annoying, I know.
Thanks for letting us know.
On the Mac, I use Netscape Composer, which is part of the Navigator package.
It’s worked well for me and might be worth checking out, if there is a Windows version.
Yup. Just so you know, yesterday I tried Mozilla, Konquerer, Opera, and Firefox and got similar results on all of them. Some more extreme than others, but all of them produced some anomolies of overlaping.
But like I said before, the overall design is very nice indeed. It’s refreshing to have nice simple and attractive sites rather than junked up with too much java scripting, frames, mouseovers, and things that do nothing more than take up bandwidth and annoy dial up customers.
Take care,
John
Looks OK right now with Netscape 7.1. It is a little too wide, but nothing that would irritate me too much. 
Yep It certainly does look better! 
My bad for not looking first before posting. I just got in and posted my findings from the last time I checked everything and wanted to be sure post my findings. I hadn’t posted yet what I’d found on all the other browsers.
Looks good.
That’s what one gets for not looking first!
Take care,
John
OK… would you be so kind as to give a look see to the “Testimonials” page and see if we are still having the vertical spacing problem with the knots and the quotes?
I really do appreciate everyone’s input!!
Thanks!
Great work! I’m at 1152 x 864 and it looks perfect on my screen, using Firefox.
I don’t understand why you can’t make the site using straight html and simple text editor and then let the owner use a web html tool to edit existing code, it should work no?
No scrolling / alignment issues I can find on the testimonials page. Looks great. Seems like all the bugs are worked out fine. Only thing I’ve found is that funny little squished graphic in the bottom left corner about some kind of online message but it has nothing to do with the rest of the site.
An to address the straight HTML versus Web editor question… they don’t mix well. More often than not, (there are exceptions to every rule, I just haven’t personally run across it yet) you can work hard, make a gorgeous, stable web page, then the first time a web based editor ‘edits’ it, everything is immediately reformatted so that it can be understood and organized by that editor how and when it wants.
It’s the same thing as building a webpage and then opening it with Word or Open Office… try it sometime… it will drive you insane!! All you want is an HTML editor (which I learned long ago to us a simple, text based editor) and these programs reformat and force you to undo a bunch of crap!! 
Take care,
John
It might - I’ve just never set one up before where the owner took over editing unless they knew HTML too. I’ve not dealt with web html tools or editing programs much, obviously.
Got any you would suggest?
Looking good so far. I use the Yahoo site builder program for the Salt Lake Piping Club website exclusively and haven’t found too many problems with alignment or compatability: http://www.saltlakepipers.com
If I can offer any help with the layout issues or sizing, do let me know. Not being an HTML powerhouse myself, I wanted something with the ease of drag and drop but still including the option to add HTML objects and features to pages. Yahoo Sitebuilder filled those requirements for me well enough.
Best of luck to you both!
Brian~
It looks GREAT 
If you put in a coloured scrollbar it would look exelent !
the code is:
This goes in the head section of the html. Just change the # to a colour
Still getting some overlap with the knots on the testimonials page.
1024X768 Firefox (mozilla 1.7)