It’s just not the same coming to the Pub when our mate Denny’s not here ..
I miss him and I’m sure you all do as well.
A big, big yes to all that. You know he’s always had to have his say, and do you know, I think I actually just heard him quip, “Good luck taking up the slack…” ![]()
But I also think he’d want us to do just that, in our own ways, as we can. ![]()
I have to agree on that. I never mentioned it but I do miss him. Bravo to everybody who has worked to keep his legacy alive through the new Odd News and daily astronomy picture threads. ![]()
I miss his TED thread. I didn’t watch nearly all of the talks he posted, but I always liked knowing they were there. If I could find the time, I’d try to pick up that one.
But …
… I’ll miss his sardonic comments most.
Ytliek and I took a roadtrip to New York today. Denny, his intellect, humor, contributions to C & F, widespread admiration among members, and the “hole” left by his departure, were all topics of our discussion. It is very obvious that Denny touched many lives.
Cayden
I miss him so much. The things that come into my mind throughout the day are how much bigger his hands were then mine. Not just as a little girl but even now at 27. How soft his hair was. (I don’t know why) He would always reply to the things I said with his own combination of yep and yup, out of utter confusion of my girlish rambling. His witty remarks that could sometimes take me days before I ever really realized what he was saying. (I’m not as sharp as he is). When him and Adena took me to get my first pair of boots for the ranch and how I felt that day. Hearing him say “I love you too, kiddo” … I should have hugged him more…
I still feel like that about my Dad, and he left us 15 years ago or so.
My dad posted a YouTube video to Facebook in November and I instantly fell in love with the song. I have listened to it about a billion times. I thought I could share it with all of you!
I hope you all love it as much as I do!
“…innit?”
I’m going to miss “…innit?”
And of course, I owe him a debt of gratitude for being the vector that brought APOD to my life !
trill
I always used to wonder about him saying “innit?” because it is such a typical word (or phrase or whatever it is) used in Cardiff, South Wales, where I spent so much of my younger days, after I’d moved out of the South Wales Valleys where I grew up.
Thanks for posting and I would love to hear you talk about him.
I always though he was taking the mickey out of the brits on the forum. And for a Nolstermun, “innit” is repeated by everyone south of an east-west line going through Crewe, on the Big Island, or so it seems. Ooop 'ere in Lankashur, it’s “in’t’it”, in’t’it? And in Yorkshur they just grunt, or sneer. Or both. In Scotland, they tend to say “ye ken?” at least in the parts I was.
And comments? His pithiest comments were them wee emoticon gifs. Very apropos, they was. Grand fella, Denny.
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No-one says “innit” here, near Ross-on-Wye. Absolutely no-one. I noticed it particularly when I moved here from Cardiff about 20 odd years ago. It must be prevalent in patches.
You do hear it in the States. I couldn’t tell you how regional or widespread it is, but if it was originally an inheritance from Across the Pond, it has spread beyond that to other groups. Nor could I tell you if I grew up with it or picked it up later, but I’ve always considered it to simply be a natural, very relaxed colloquial diction for “isn’t it”, with no particular reference or alliance to usages outside of the US. I do know that Mom would have killed me if I said it at the dinner table. ![]()
You do hear it in the States. I couldn’t tell you how regional or widespread it is, but if it was originally an inheritance from Across the Pond, it has spread beyond that to other groups. Nor could I tell you if I grew up with it or picked it up later, but I’ve always considered it to simply be a natural, very relaxed colloquial diction for “isn’t it”, with no particular reference or alliance to usages outside of the US. I do know that Mom would have killed me if I said it at the dinner table.
Here are a couple of theories about innit. Take or leave them at your pleasure. At some point I imagine S1m0n will chime in and set us all straight. Meanwhile, I am just enjoying how Denny still has us thinking and talking. The first theory comes from sociolinguist Peter Trudgill.
There is an enormous body of literature on the invariant tag innit in
English English, The origin appears to be in London-based
Caribbean-influenced varieties, where it seems to have served
originally as a ‘translation’ of Caribbean English Creole 'no?".
It is worth noticing that such invariant tags are very common in
areas where English has a history of being learnt as a second
language e.g Welsh English invariant “isn’t it?”; broad South African
English “is it?”; West African English “is it?”, Indian English
“isn’t it?”; Singaporean English “isn’t it?/ is it?”
The second comes from an article in “The Telegraph” (no byline) from 15 March 2007.
There are more English-speakers in India than anywhere else, and satellite television, films and the internet mean that more people in the sub-continent are exposed to both standard English and Hinglish.
Indian words such as pyjamas, caravan, bungalow and thug were long ago imported into standard English.
The word doolally comes from the India town Deolali, where there was an asylum during the Raj. The ubiquitous tag "innit’’ is believed to have started among Indians in the West Midlands in the 1970s via “haina” - a Hindi phrase, stuck on the sentences and meaning “is no?”.
Among other Hinglish words are:
chuddies - underpants
desi - a south Asian
ganja - bald
machi chips - fish & chips
shaadi - a wedding
sharaabi - drunkard
stepney - a spare of anything, a mistress. The Stepney was originally a type of spare tyre manufactured in Wales.
Some Hinglish phrases include:
Time kya hua hai? - What is the time right now?
I have hazaar things on my mind right now. - I have a thousand of things on my mind right now.
He’s a postwalla. - He works in a post office.