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I don’t hear Mr. McGee’s Flutes mentioned much on this list. Do any of you all have em and what do you think of them?
I’ve got one of his Rudall Improved in Blackwood in D. The Flute is a very easy player, loud and really honks!
Mr. F
I have one of his 4-key Rudall-Carte versions, with a short D foot. It is incredible both in sound and construction.
McGee flutes have been discussed quite a bit. Use the Search function.
I have spent a wonderful week with the McGee Roving Ambassador Flute (his keyless Rudall and Rose Perfected model in blackwood).
Strong flute with a powerful tone, capable of speaking with a wide pallette of sounds. Notably easy third register for a keyless. Slightly odd intonation around the break, but what wooden flute doesn’t have that?
Physically very light and extremely well constructed.
By the way, am I the only one who cringes when I see a message whose only content is an order to use the search function?
I am sure it’s not how it was meant, but it comes across as “hello newbie…we were talking about that before you learned to walk, so go away now.” It has the much the same feel as an “RTFM” post on Usenet, though I’m sure that wasn’t how it was meant.
Best to all,
–James
http://www.flutesite.com
[ This Message was edited by: peeplj on 2002-12-14 13:06 ]
On 2002-12-14 12:58, peeplj wrote:
By the way, am I the only one who cringes when I see a message whose only content is an order to use the search function?
Well, James, I KNOW that I am not the only one who cringes when a newbie makes an inaccurate observation based on about two weeks of watching the forum. That’s what Search is for. But I have no problem with said newbie.
I am sure it’s not how it was meant, but it comes across as “hello newbie…we were talking about that before you learned to walk, so go away now.”
Um, I said nothing about “go away.” I guess I meant, “Hello, Newbie. Do you know that this forum has been around for longer than two weeks? Perhaps you could do a little research.”
It has the much the same feel as an “RTFM” post on Usenet, though I’m sure that wasn’t how it was meant.
Never heard of it.
RTFM
Read The Frickin Messages
Well, Jessie, I certainly didn’t mean to step on any toes–sorry if I have accidentally offended.
I do think this touches on several issues that affect both the board and music in general, so I’m going to explain why I feel the way I do.
First, there are only a limited number of available subjects in Irish traditional music to discuss. There will be repetition of necessity.
Also just because something has been discussed at length before doesn’t mean everything which can be said on the subject has been said. A fresh viewpoint, even one with which we don’t agree, can be a valuable thing.
Also, just because someone is new on the board doesn’t mean they are new to the music or new to playing. It is a mistake to think someone’s real life is accurately represented by an online presence.
This is not to say we shouldn’t point out the search function when topics are brought up. But the mention of the search engine should be in addition to some comment or observation about the thread subject, not in place of a posting. This will foster new discussion on the subject, which is surely a good thing for us all.
Of course, if you feel something has been discussed to the point of beating a dead horse, then you probably shouldn’t be participating in that thread, anyway.
Again, I hope I haven’t offended.
Best wishes,
–James
http://www.flutesite.com
On 2002-12-14 15:05, peeplj wrote:
Also, just because someone is new on the board doesn’t mean they are new to the music or new to playing. It is a mistake to think someone’s real life is accurately represented by an online presence.
Um, huh? I mean, Relevance??? I did not, in ANY way, insinuate anything about the board newbie’s history. I dealt only with the board.
You are right, I agree that repetition is fine and it’s always nice to come up with fresh stuff to say about familiar topics. But this guy’s post stated that we don’t talk about McGee flutes, and that is, frankly, uneducated (in terms of the forum) hogwash. I know it may seem like I have a problem with the original poster of the thread, but I don’t. And HE isn’t the one arguing with me. It’s you, James. So you are turning a molehill into a mountain.
Just passin through guys, a little break from the whistle board. Thought I might add a little newbee perspective to this thread, if its not being to impertanent. The one time I asked for some help here Jayhawk replied in a most friendly way, told me what I needed to know and it FELT realy nice.
I don`t play the flute, it is only a dream for me right now,(though I am sitting here by my window waiting for the long tube which will contain my Dixon Low D Combo). But I do feel a little intimidated by some of the tone of discussion I read in here. Always makes me want to take a step back and think twice about makeing a comment or asking a question.
I did discover the search feature and have spent hours delving into the vast storehouse of knowledge contained there in.
But there is always reason to think there might be fresh thoughts on similar subjects. Not knowing flute jargan, or the names of makers or any of that stuff it seem hard to even compose a question.
No one is more opinionated then yours truly believe me. But there are things on this planet worth being opinionated about and things that require a little tolerance for the neofite. I think it would be better to encourage the newbee with answers and sugestions, including the search feature but then again I am still peaking in from behind a very big tree eager to learn but slightly afraid of the teacher.
Tom
It’s simply a matter of common courtesty, here and on virtually every other forum out there, for one to search previous threads before posting a question.
Loren
It wasn’t the question that bothered me in the original post. It was the statement in which the poster said he hasn’t seen much discussion of McGee’s flutes. It was baseless and uninformed. Plenty of people ask newbie questions and I either answer helpfully or stay out of it, but this one just bothered me, because he showed lack of respect for those messages that existed before his presence on the forum.
Oh piddle. There are people who have never been to a forum before but who discover this wounderful place by just dumb luck and don`t know anything about forum edicate, or rules of engagment or any of that B%$%##$%. They are just interested in Irish Trad and the people who play it. If they hang around long enough it slowly creeps in that there are understoode ways of doing things. Mostly they are just happy at there good fortune to have found this place and react without the least thought of research. They react to the possibility of communicating with those who play the music they love.
Tom
Geeze Tom, you and James seem to be worked up over nothing - No one was actually giving Fandango a hard time, it was simply suggested that he check the information that’s already out there, which would by the way, give him far more information about McGee flutes than what has been related in this thread.
Jessie is as helpful as anyone around here, and more so than most, she didn’t deserve to get a hard time for simply pointing out that there are other (sometimes more complete) resouces available to the poster.
Loren
[ This Message was edited by: Loren on 2002-12-14 16:16 ]
I`m realy not worked up at all. I just wanted to make a general observation on perception.
Peace and long life to you all
Tom
My comments weren’t meant to take Jessie (or anyone else) to task, and I really wasn’t commenting so much just on this one thread, but on something that happens pretty frequenly on the flute board.
This was not meant to be any kind of argument, and I definitely didn’t mean to step on anybody’s toes.
Best,
–James
http://www.flutesite.com
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some of you are quite fussy, and you’re ruminations about doing a search are quite tedious. I don’t really go for archival stuff and prefer to get peoples CURRENT impressions of instruments, but I realize this approach will go over many peoples heads, as is evident from some of the responses, you people know who you are!
Mr. F
So much for being friendly to you. You have missed the point. Archives are quite helpful AND relatively current. You are missing out on good information AND being an ass.
[ This Message was edited by: JessieK on 2002-12-14 17:36 ]
On 2002-12-14 17:28, Mr. Fandango wrote:
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some of you are quite fussy, and you’re ruminations about doing a search are quite tedious. I don’t really go for archival stuff and prefer to get peoples CURRENT impressions of instruments, but I realize this approach will go over many peoples heads, as is evident from some of the responses, you people know who you are!
Mr. F
While I sympathize with the viewpoint regarding current verses archival information, I don’t think this kind of posting is helpful or constructive either.
It costs nothing to be polite and yet it yields great profits, which was my intended point in the first place.
–James
http://www.flutesite.com
[ This Message was edited by: peeplj on 2002-12-14 18:16 ]
Jessie:
If you have a mcgee flute and can shed some insights into my original question fine, if not your comments are pointless. your name calling shows your bad manners and speaks mountains about you
Mr. Fandango, I spent a week with Terry McGee and know quite a bit, first hand, about all of the models of his flutes. Your attitude and style of writing also speaks volumes about you. I suppose what you know about me now is that I am often intolerant of unabashed self-imposed ignorance.