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After lurking off and on for almost a year, I’ve finally decided to come out into the light and ask a question.

A fiddler in our session (which includes Tony Higgins, if I may be permitted to name-drop) has a penchant for tunes in F and its same-key-signature modes. I have a high F Generation whistle, but I’m interested in eventually getting a low F whistle in the possibly deluded hope I’ll be able to manage the fingering better than on my Shaw low G.

I did a web search and found this page:

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/kadima/whistles.htm

which lists some whistles at amazingly good prices, included some low F’s. I admit I don’t read the board thoroughly, but I also found nothing in the archives using the search provision, nor are they mentioned at The Undisputed King’s low whistle page.

Having followed the board off and on for a year, I know that there are at least 50 people who will read this who can tell me about these whistles with their hands and feet bound, their mouths gagged, and their ears stuffed with cotton. (I should add that I don’t want any of you to try this; it’s simply meant as a hyperbolic compliment.)

Would some one or ones be willing to tell me about them?

Thanks much!

John

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[ This Message was edited by: rich on 2001-08-30 09:11 ]

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tried looking Get a “Page cannot be found error”

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Take the > off the end of the url.

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found the problem the > on the end of the URL is being seen as part of the URL, remove the > at the end and the page loads

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The link (URL), will work if you remove the last character, that is, the “>”

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I brought a PVC Low D last year for $25. It had rough uneven drilled holes and did not sound too good. The whistle looked like it was made by a amateur not a professional. I was trying to be cheap but it did not work out, it was not worth the $25.

I made a similar comment the last time someone inquired about these whistles and the maker responded by saying that his whistles have improved since then but I have not seen a positive review on the board.

I am not crazy about Susatos but a Low F Susato would be a safer bet.

Joe

[ This Message was edited by: jmssmh on 2001-08-29 21:05 ]

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Hi John

When your link didn’t work, I went through Google and found the site.

I don’t know.

It’s hard to tell because there isn’t any information on how they sound and there are no sound files either. Or how long they have been making them.

You could be the first kid on the block sort speaking and write a review for us. They are cheap !

I found the same page when I went looking for flutes and kind of winced, the pictures didn’t impress me.

And why do you let the fiddler get away playing in F all the time, it ain’t natural.

OH:) Welcome to the board

Mark

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And why do you let the fiddler get away playing in F all the time, it ain’t natural.
Mark

He she probably does it because fiddles sound lovely and mellow in F. But you might not need an F whistle to play along.

Is your fiddler playing the Humours of Westport? The Boys of Ballisodare in F instead of G? If so, you need a C whistle, not an F whistle. With a C whistle you can also easily play all those G-dorian and D-dorian tunes that fiddlers love.

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John,
You probably already know this, but just in case you didn’t:
You can play in F on a C whistle (as though it is G on a D whistle)
Sue

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Hi John,believe it or not,the susato low F fingering is somewhat like its low D relative and is most likely more dificult to finger than your Shaw G.If you’re looking ,for an easy to play Low F whistle with incredible tone,the Kerry low pro tunable by Hardy is hard to beat.If you have a susato D (soprano)tunable you can very easily adapt the head to your generation F,the only modification being the removal of the fipple using near boiling water and a single wrap of celotape about one inch above the gen. decal.Simply slide the gen body up the middle of the susato head and presto! you have a unique sounding high F whistle thats tunable and extremely playable.Please note,this only works with gen F whistles. D E flat & G whistles involve further modification and anything below D just doesnt work.If you or anyone would like further info on this, feel free to contact me privately. :slight_smile: Mike (sorry folks if I confused you,Phil Hardy is the maker of Kerry low pro whistles and not Howard and i’ve made the correction…and extracted my foot from my mouth.)

[ This Message was edited by: mike.r on 2001-08-30 08:49 ]

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Mike,

Your Low F suggestions of a Kerry Pro by Howard is confusing since they are two different whistle makers-Kerrys are made by Phil Hardy. I also do not understand the head transplant with the Susato D fipple on a generation F barrel since the Susato D fipple is way too big for Generation D (it is 5/8 of an inch where Generation D requires a 1/2 inch)it would take a lot of tape to secure it to the smaller F barrel.

Joe

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If you need a low F, a Water Weasel oughta do the trick. I have one of Glenn’s low G’s, and it’s terrific. Nice big finger holes for easy half holing. Terrific, strong sound.

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Joe,I promise this works exactly the way I described it as the inner bore above the flange on the susato head is the exact size needed and thanks for pointing out the name error in my previous message. :slight_smile: Mike

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Mike,

Now I understand. I’ll have to try it sometime, I love a good head transplant.

Joe

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My apologies to Ron, MarkB, and others who had problems with the URL, and my thanks to Rich for emending it. In e-mail, angle brackets help some applications recognize URLs as such even when line-wrapped, and that was my intention here. In many respects I’m a bad lab rat, but I think I’ll remember this one. :slight_smile:

My thanks to Joe/jmssmh for the review and to StevieJ and Sue/Whistlepeg for the reminder that F is to C as G is to D; on one level I know this because I’ve been playing Josefins Dopvals in F:

http://www.nyckelharpa.org/music/allspel.html

along with Väsen on my Sindt C whistle (while trying to figure out the most euphonious thing to do when they go down to B). There are advantages and disadvantages to doing this sort of thing by ear … (no, I’m not trying to restart a thread on the subject).

StevieJ, the tune is Paddy Fahey’s jig. We refer to it at our session as “That tune” or “The tune that dare not speak its name” or the like in honor of its notoriety; it’s become a running joke when Jim gets a gleam in his eye and sets bow to string to sound a Bb. You suggest that he might be playing it in F for the sake of loveliness and mellowness, but I attribute it entirely to perversity on his part. :wink: Your suggestion shows what a fine person you are, though.

Finally, my thanks to Joe, Mike.r, and brewerpaul for their advice on alternates and possible surgical alternatives, and to the other board members contributing to the 161 views (so far). I appreciate very much your advice.

John

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… the tune is Paddy Fahey’s jig.

John, the question of how to play this tune came up on the old board. Here’s a link to the suggestion I posted then:

http://chiffboard.mati.ca/archive/whistle/82/62253588572398.html

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I tried placing an online order for one of the PVC whistles last night. The order would not go through as I needed (as part of my credit card information) a 3 Digit Verification Number. None of my cards have such a number.

Anyone know what the above is all about?

Thanks

CUL

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On 2001-08-31 16:13, thesackrat wrote:
I tried placing an online order for one of the PVC whistles last night. The order would not go through as I needed (as part of my credit card information) a 3 Digit Verification Number. None of my cards have such a number.

Anyone know what the above is all about?

Thanks

CUL

On the back of my credit cards, in the signature area, is usually my entire credit card number, or the last 4 digits. After that is a 3 digit number..this is the ‘verification number’ that they’re talking about. I’m not sure when this feature started showing up on cards, but every one of my cards has one. I’ve only ever ordered from one vendor that asked for it.

Greg

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On 2001-08-31 22:00, Wandering_Whistler wrote:

On 2001-08-31 16:13, thesackrat wrote:
I tried placing an online order for one of the PVC whistles last night. The order would not go through as I needed (as part of my credit card information) a 3 Digit Verification Number. None of my cards have such a number.

Anyone know what the above is all about?

Thanks

CUL

On the back of my credit cards, in the signature area, is usually my entire credit card number, or the last 4 digits. After that is a 3 digit number..this is the ‘verification number’ that they’re talking about. I’m not sure when this feature started showing up on cards, but every one of my cards has one. I’ve only ever ordered from one vendor that asked for it.

Greg

Greg and all,

Here’s some free advice (take it or leave it, it’s your credit…) from a former credit card company manager (that’d be me):

I would not give this number out if I were you. There is no good reason for an on-line merchant to request these additional numbers.

Generally speaking, you are only required to provide the standard 16 digit account number, your name (as it appears on the card), and the expiration date. The rules governing businesses that agree to accept VISA and Mastercard state that unless the merchant has a specific reason to suspect fraud, they may not ask for any additional identification. This would include things like your driver’s license number or those three extra digits on the back of the card.

I mean really, think about it: If those numbers were meant to be used by the Merchants, why aren’t they embossed on the front of the card like the other numbers and information?

By the way, here’s another helpful hint: Sign your credit cards. Some folks think they’re being smart by not signing the cards and writing “See I.D.” on the back instead. This is a mistake A) Because the same rules I mentioned above give every merchant the right to refuse any card that is not signed - and some actually do, although this is rare.

And B) If your wallet/purse is stolen guess what’s right in there with your credit cards? That’s right all your I.D., just what the crooks need to use your unsigned credit cards. This may seem like common sense to most people on this board - but you’d be amazed how many folks make this mistake.

Okay, there’s my good deed for the day. Later Y’all!

Loren

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Thanks so much fellows and gals. The number is on the right of the signature space. I didn’t see it before because it’s pretty well hidden by my signature.

As for the advice to refuse to send this “extra” number to vendors: Good Advice and I plan on following it.

Thanks

CUL