It's time to boat this bass!!

OK. This is not a drill. I got curious about the Froment 4 regulator set advertised on Ebay so, using a false name and email address, I emailed the ‘seller’. Below is the exchange of emails between Chavione and me over the last 24 hours:


From: “John Archer”
To: bookenti1958@hotmail.com
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:43:43 +0000

Hi there,

I see you’re selling a Froment set on ebay.

I’m in West Palm Beach. Can I meet you somewhere and check out the pipes?

John Archer


From: “Chavione Felder” <bookenti1958@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:49:36 -0900

Hi, John!
It´s impossible, because it´s with my grandparent in WI, but I can offer you a 24 hours of approval, however, I´d demand the payment upfront through bank wire. Regards. Chavione


From: “John Archer”
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:00:55 +0000

Hey Chavione,

I checked ebay and the pipes are no longer there. Have you sold them?

John A.


From: “Chavione Felder” <bookenti1958@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:36:47 -0900

Yes, I did
I have already an offer , my buyer will pay me tomorrow, $6600. If you want to purchase it, I´d demand a higher offer. Thanks. Chavione


From: “John Archer”
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:29:22 +0000

I might be willing to make a higher offer, but as previously mentioned, I’d have to see the pipes first.

I suggest you get your grandparents to send the pipes to you by UPS. I’ll pay the cost (I’d have to anyway if I buy them).

John A.


From: “Chavione Felder” <bookenti1958@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 04:55:19 -0900

If you pay me half, I´d gladly request the pipes to my grandfather and you could pay me the other half once you have inspected it, otherwise, I´d sell to my buyer. Chavione


From: “John Archer”
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:58:15 +0000

The most I’d agree to pay beforehand is 10%.


From: “Chavione Felder” <bookenti1958@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 04:58:59 -0900

Sorry, but I want 50%.


From: “John Archer”
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:03:37 +0000

Sorry Chavione, but I wouldn’t give 50% to my mother. $660, which I can transfer to you before lunchtime, on the understanding that the pipes will be with you before the weekend. I’ll pay the balance to you on collection. If there’s a problem with the pipes - something’s broken, parts missing, I’ll expect a refund of my $660, less the cost of having them shipped to you by UPS.

John A.


From: “Chavione Felder” <bookenti1958@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 05:05:52 -0900

But John!
I have already a buyer, he´s about to pay me, there is only a way to change my mind, you transfer half to my account and I´d request the pipes to my grandfather, otherwise, unfortunately no deal. Anyway, good luck and I hope you might find the pipes with somebody else. Chavione


From: “John Archer”
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:21:27 +0000

Sorry Chavione. I don’t know if your buyer has payed you anything yet. If he has, then I should probably back off. It sounds like he’s more interested in the pipes than I am.

My final offer is $6,750, I pay the shipping from WI, and I’ll pay $1,000 deposit as soon as you agree to the above (bank transfer or cash, as you like). This is conditional on the pipes being in good condition when I receive them. If they are not, you refund my $1,000 less the cost of shipping.

If you don’t like this, and if your sale falls through with the other buyer I’ll offer you the same terms for 24 hours.

John A.


Ok, John!
I´ll give you an opportunity, can you wire me the money within 3 hours!? or atleast wire it today, so, I´d call my grandfather to ship it to me, my bank information is:

Bank Name: HSBC
Account registrant and owner: Chavione XXX
ACCT# XXX
Routing # XXX


Keep me updated.
Chavione

So how do I let him know I’m on to him???

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

I love a good ‘baiting’!

String him along for a little while, making up some lame excuse about a ‘bank holiday’ in WPBeach today, then tell him you saw another auction for a set of Fromment pipes EXACTLY like the one he is selling, and that you are going to purchase them instead. :smiley:

Or you could just tell him the truth, that his auction is a fraud and you have been playing him for a fool. :smiley:

:laughing:

Update:



From: “John Archer”
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:37:40 +0000

Hi Chavione,

I tried to wire the money but by bank tells me that the account
number is not valid.

Can you confirm the details?

John A.


From: “Chavione Felder” <bookenti1958@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 06:53:40 -0900

Hi, John!
The bank details is correct, yesterday I´ve received a deposit,
there isn´t any problem. Try again in another place. Chavione


From: “John Archer”
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:32:41 +0000

That’s it - gone through. Let me know when it arrives.

John A.


He he he he he[/b]

congrats, you have a good “scam-bait” operation going. Check out this web page:

http://www.419eater.com/


I think your local office of the secret service might want to know the details, especially if this person is asking for you to wire funds to a US bank. I’d love to see him caught.

But if nothing else, time is money - waste as much of his time as you possibly can. String him along. We are enjoying this very much and rooting for you to maximize his trouble.

hee hee

  • tom

go get 'em.

hee hee

  • tom

… wait! wait! Let me get some popcorn and a Guinness first!

Update - Still no word from Chavione since I sent him $1,000.

By the way, the Bank Account details I’ve omitted from the post. The account number and code he gave me seem to be valid, but they are for a HSBC in New York City. The plot thickens…

I’m confused… um, did you actually send him $1,000? Will you be able to retrieve it if you did? :confused:

Of course I gave him $1,000. You don’t think I would have organised this elaborate rouse and not given him $1,000. Shish!!

Sorry, I forgot that you can’t see me wink.

:wink:

No, I didn’t send him $1,000. I just wanted him to confirm that the bank details were correct.

Hey, does anyone know anyone who works in HSBC and can check out an account holder’s home address? I’ll PM the account number if you do!!

Sarcasm, correct? The reason I asked was because it isn’t often that both Guinness and popcorn find their way from my mouth, through my nose and sprayed all over my keyboard, monitor and shirt… I guess I wanted it to count for something. :smiley:

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This makes me think twice before I bid on an ebay auction…

My wife is into eBay BIG time, but I am very cautious of it. I think that the only thing I’ve ever purchased from eBay was a box containing an old ragged bellows and an assortment of old ragged bagpipe parts (treasure, by anyother name) from Jim McGuire. They were the left overs from the W. Rowsome Bb restoration project.

I would use an 0/4 wooly bugger on an 8 wt rod with 9 foot of braided tippet when you do net the fiend

my take on it is that if a person is in the high 90%s with their feedback, and run a store offering a warantee, you’re pretty safe.

beyond that, only spend the amount of money you could stand losing.

nail 'em to the wall…

I love using Ebay, Im just going to be extra cautious with high dollar stuff like chanters and pipes

24 hours and $1,000 later and still no sign of Chavione or my 4 reg Froment set.

I’m starting to worry - I hope nothing terrible has happened to Chavione. I really felt he and I had a rapport going.

The latest:

John!
No money so far, did you send yesterday!? check again with your bank. I guess there was a problem. Chavione

Reply:

I sent it yesterday at approx. 12.00. Should have got there by now. I’ll check with the bank.

By the way, what’s you’re address and phone no.? I don’t see a listing for you in the phonebook.

John A.

PJ:

Nice one for sure! How about telling him the great news that business will bring you to Wisconsin so now you CAN view the pipes in person!!!

Just a thought…

:smiling_imp: