I won a hohner whistle, and another one...

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I don’t know, Cranberry; I’m just the sort of person to go for a Hohner simply because it’s fairly rare, never mind its musical points…that’s the collector in me talking. :slight_smile: As it is, we all try to get the best instruments we know how, pocket providing; still, I’ll nab some things just for their novelty even if they’re less than playable. I say enjoy it, it’s a find in any case. Have you played it? What do YOU think about it? To my knowledge your position at C&F is now unique, and I would welcome a review of the Hohner; I suspect you’ve been playing enough now to have some idea of what works for you, and what doesn’t. Advice and expertise are fine, but as a whistler yourself (even a beginner), you’ve got the goods in there somewhere!

Anyway, give us a review later if you’re more comfortable with that…

Best,
N

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Hi Cranberry,

The item on the far right is a Quena (I think it’s pronounced kwenya) which comes from the Andes in South America. You blow onto the blade to get the note - so unlike a whistle where the angle of breath onto the blade is more or less fixed, here you can vary it a lot. This makes it quite hard to play at first, but gives a greater range of expression when you get the embouchure right. From the look of the hole spacing it looks like a good one - I envy you, I want one too!

Here’s a couple of sites where you can learn more:

http://www.fippless.org/Quena

http://www.kanji.org/kanji/jack/quena/

Next to it is a bamboo flute, no idea of the make, but Nabi & Sons are one make I know of. If it’s a Nabi, the extra whippings of nylon thread round the flute have been removed. The holes look rather too uniform, I suspect it won’t play in tune, but maybe this spacing is correct.

The middle item I have no idea, maybe it’s a Rekessian Flute!

Second form left is the Soodlum. This is the original name for the Walton, and they’re rare in the shops now with the old label. So that’s becoming a rare collectors piece. I’m guessing that it is a D whistle.

That leaves the Hohner on the left. From the size it’s probably a Bb, and looks in good condition. I think Hohners are quite rare these days, so that’s another good buy.

Altogether I think you’ve got a great haul and could have paid twice the price and still got a bargain. Only the bamboo flute looks a lemon to me, and that’s only a guess from the picture, it may well play fine.

The other three are all Andean instruments. The yarn covered one on the left is called a pinkuyu (phonetic spelling). I forgot the name of the transverse style but it looks Andean. The one on the far right is indeed a quena or kena (depending on region), pronounced "K-na, with the a standard Spanish a as in agua. The quena looks like an interesting one. The hole placement and size look about right. The transverse one I would wonder about since the holes are all a similar size, screams tourist instrument. The Andean whistle, usually pentatonic, looks like a tourist model as well with the llama wrapper. If you are interested in parting with the quena or tranverse flute drop me a note off board at mvanek@licor(spam blocker).com Just remove the spam blocker so it’s licor.com


Mark V.

A thought just occurred, would these Andean instruments (at least the ones that DO play properly) be tuned for the high thin atmosphere of the Andes, and thus not be in tune at sea level?

Martin, that is a very interesting question. It might have some small part to play. Most of the good Andean instruments I’ve played have come from Bolivia so I’m not sure what the average altitude is. We try to get someone there every year or two for an instrument buying trip. I went a couple years ago and took an electronic tuner and the quenas I bought that were in tune there were ever so slightly flat when I brought them home. I think the bigger factor is personal playing style and the amount of air pressure you put in. There is no real “mouthpiece” like on a whistle so the angle you hold it at, position of lips, how tight it’s held against your chin, etc., all play a part. A quena that is in tune for me and my playing style is invariably sharp for the leader of our group mainly because he has an amazing set of lungs and plays much “harder” than I do. It can be really frustrating to try and find a quena that fits.

Any one know what effect altitude has on pitch? I would be interested to know if my “flat at lower altitudes” experience fits the math so to speak or if was just due to me being able to put less air in when playing them since I was at a higher altitude than I’m used to. I know that less air through a quena = flat pitch, more air sharpens the pitch

Mark V.

Aaha, well, here I refer you to my Helium experiment (I knew it was real science!). :astonished:

In the same way that helium raises the pitch of one’s voice, so it does in a whistle, because of the lower density of helium compared to air.

So logically in the less dense air of the Andes, our “sea level” whistles would play sharp, and an Andean quena would play flat at sea level.

Of course, I don’t suppose Bolivian quena players are quite so fastidious about concert pitch as we are! :boggle:

And as you point out, we probably can’t get as much air into the quena at altitude unless we have acclimatised.

I have a friend passing through this part of the world right now, and I subtly suggested that a quena would be a great present to get me! Mind you, unless she posts it, she’ll have to carry the durn thing across New Zealand and Wombat Country before she gets back, so I may get it in pieces!

The MCM Transatlantic Whistle Detective Agency comes through again. Thanks for the confirmation Martin.

As for Bolivian quena players not being as concerned about concert pitch…it depends on the player. :wink:

I’ve seen some absolutely beautifull wood and\or bone quenas that barely play a recognizable scale. One that I play quite a bit looks like it was made from scrap bamboo found on a beach frequented by some sort of animal that was using it to crack open mussels.

Good luck in getting yours. Posting from South America can be pretty pricey unless you are willing to wait a few months. trekking it through Lord of the Rings land and Wombatville may be the safer route! If it gets too beat up you can always use it as a vacuum cleaner attachment to clean up the spilled coffee granules.

Mark V.

I have an Aflat six-hole whistle from S. America that looks like one of Crans. I got if for 3 bucks at an import store in Nevada City, of all places. It plays easier than a Shaw and is in tune..

Just waiting for an Aflat tune or singer!!!

Just relocate to a higher altitude, then it might become an A whistle. The other option would be to hook it up to a helium tank. :boggle:

Mark V.

Hey I’m over 200 posts! Only took me a couple years. I really am mostly a lurker unlike some other supposed lurkers. :smiley:

what, Mark? I’m only a lurker, really. :wink:

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