Hi all, just received my Overton, and I am having troubles with the stretch to play the low D note. The whistle is an Overton made by Overton.
What would u suggest for fingering with the the right hand, use 123 fingers, or 124???
Very confused, I have smallish sized hands, and have played a Howard comfortably to give u a clue. Any help appreciated.
See ya
Andy
Do your 123 fingers reach at all? if they just reach they will stretch with practise…if not err… I have bigish hands and you know what they say .. big hands big … gloves 
Richard.
big hands can’t spell_____
rbm, in the wilds of the English Lake District, where the fells stand hidden in the grey murk of winter.
[ This Message was edited by: rbm on 2003-02-06 06:47 ]
It did hurt me to stretch that far, at first, and I have big hands. If you have smaller hands, you might be better served by the 124 approach. But keep trying and you can make it work. I’ve seen folks with small hands do very well on low Ds, using the 124 way.
Andy, be sure you’re using the correct grip.
http://www.chiffandfipple.com/pipers.html
Short, skinny fingers here, though wit big palms.
Last year, beginning, I couldn’t stretch any Low D, even an easy one. It just plain hurted… Now I have this extremely wide reach D, and love it. Also a low C, love it too. Budgeting a Low Bb…
So, since my arthritis did not improve in the meanwhile, I guess it doest grow on one’s hands…
On 2003-02-06 09:00, Zubivka wrote:
So, since my arthritis did not improve in the meanwhile, I guess it doest grow on one’s hands…
you need some bee stings… I’d export you some but the EEC have a ban on chemical weapons
I knew of ant stings to improve one’s aging blood vessels. Bee stings for arthritis ? Makes sense : you guys do need a way to survive Northumbria
Seriously : if there’s clinically proven evidence, plz let me know, here or by private message. But why not share this in our gorgeously Poststructural board ?
Zoob, there does seem to be some evidance:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=12067099&dopt=Abstract
also check here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=PubMed&cmd=Display&dopt=pubmed_pubmed&from_uid=12067099
Zoob,
Rheumatoid or osteo- arthritis? (or other)
Best wishes,
Jerry
Er, Jerry… I’d guess osteoarschritis but I’m no dokter. Just Osteoheel seems to help a bit…
Now,
here is is the magic of this place. We flame and rant, and dispense unneeded advice to unasked questions…
But if one of us seems to be in a bit of some trouble, then there’s always a few helping hands for a friendly sting!
Thank you, honey-pies… I’ll investigate this.
rbm, please make sure you bring a hive of them apis mellifica honey flies to Mesquer next summer : Brittany IS in EEC.
[ This Message was edited by: Zubivka on 2003-02-06 09:44 ]
On 2003-02-06 09:11, Zubivka wrote:
I knew of ant stings to improve one’s aging blood vessels. Bee stings for arthritis ? Makes sense : you guys do need a way to survive Northumbria >Northumbria >
> larl bit west cumbria.
well there’s nowt else to do in an evening >
Seriously : if there’s clinically proven evidence, plz let me know, here or by private message. But why not share this in our gorgeously Poststructural board ?
I go with amar on this there is some evidence but maybe not compelling.
Richard
Brittany may be in the EEC but Westmorland insn’t
rbm, in the wilds of the English Lake District, where the fells… Hey who’s stolen them?.. come on guy’s just put them back. - it’s not funny and it’s not clever.
[ This Message was edited by: rbm on 2003-02-06 09:59 ]
G’day Andy. Just a few more hints about getting used to your Overton. I have a Howard low C which was no more difficult to play than my Overton low D at first so I suppose the Howards are a bit easier. With time and practice you will get used to it. Just take it slowly and don’t practice for more than a few minutes a day until you start to get the feel of it. Don’t be alarmed if it takes a few weeks to get even a bit more comfortable.
If you didn’t already play a low D, I’d suggest you get a low F as well. You get used to the piper grip and they are much more manageable so progress is much quicker. But you would still need to work slowly at the low D at the same time.
I suspect you play the same model Overton as me. Get yours from a certain well-known outlet in Tasmania by any chance? Trust me—and the others—you’ll get used to it and the Overton low D experience is one not to be missed. I have a Copeland low D which is amongst my two or three favourite whistles but the Overton is still also a great favourite.
Andy,
In addition to the mechanics of the piper’s grip. I found that Overtons are at least a little about attitude. Bold, audacious, confident, earthy, forcefull, thick.
Where another low-d is the gentle bend in the wider river, or the gurgle and sparkle of the shaded stream; the overton is the tempest and froth of the cascade.
For me, I don’t coax the overton, I grap it.
It’s strong enough to with stand the hard grip. I find the key note (low-d) and become familiar with the note, not with the gentle brush nor the controlled caress, but rather, I find its character by leaning on it until it breaks and re-entrenches on higher ground.
Attitude and piper’s grip go far. With these the Big-O will push the way you …
Enjoy Your Music,
Lee Marsh
[ This Message was edited by: LeeMarsh on 2003-02-06 17:25 ]
Zoob,
I know of three things for that might help your arthritis:
Glucosamine and/or chondroitan have been well-researched and found to be as effective against osteoarthritis symptoms as non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs. With the NSAIDs, benefits disappeared immediately when the drugs were discontinued. With the glucosamine, the benefit continued for weeks or months after the supplement was discontinued. They’re very popular, so it’s possible the remedy you mentioned has them. The correct dose is 500 mg three times daily. Some supplements contain less, and are ineffective because they don’t achieve a therapeutic level. Glucosamine and choindroitan are nutritional building blocks the body uses to build and repair connective tissue, including cartilege damaged by arthritis.
In Europe, there is at least one excellent arthritis herbal remedy based on specialized extracts of ginger. The one I’m familiar with is from a Danish company. The extract is called EV.EXT 77, and has some good research behind it. I don’t know what product name it’s sold under, but you might be able to track it down by looking for a Danish product and checking the label.
Some people get relief by avoiding foods from the nightshade family. Here’s a quote from a book by Sherry Rogers, M.D., a prominent environmental medicine specialist.
“Nightshade family: eggplant, peppers (green, yellow, red and pimento), tomatoes, potatoes, potatoes. Important note: Do not touch this family, which also includes cayenne, chili, paprika and tobacco if you have arthritis. In 74% of people with any form of arthritis (degenerative, traumatic, rheumatoid, lupus, osteoarthritis, etc.), this family of foods is a common hidden and unsuspected cause of arthritis. And once the food is eaten, the arthritis can last for as long as three months after the last ingestion of even the tiniest amount of any member of this family. Paprika, for example is often hidden in the generic ingredients of ‘spices’ and ‘curry.’ Another way the antigen is hidden is in many commercial soups and breads which contain potato water of modified food starch.”
I’ve seen cases where someone got impressive relief from joint pain by simply reducing, but not completely avoiding nightshade foods. If you try cutting back and don’t get relief, then you would have to decide whether it would be worth it to modify your diet sufficiently to eliminate nightshade foods completely, since they are hard to totally avoid.
Best wishes,
Jerry
“This (manifest world) is full, and that (unmanifest source from whence it springs) is also full. Fullness comes out of fullness. Taking fullness from fullness, all that remains is fullness.”
[ This Message was edited by: Jerry Freeman on 2003-02-06 17:50 ]
Thanks everyone for your replies.
Its been a while, and Im now finding the strech a little easier (still using 123 fingering) , still squeeking.
Wombat, you are correct, its a great shop!
To Rbm, its not the size that counts, but how you use it, or so your mother keeps saying. She is very happy with it, she even gives me cookies afterwards!!(HAHA JOke)
Peace Andy
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