How to finger a third octave D.

How do you finger a third octave D? :confused: :confused:

Get her drunk first…

Sorry, ahem.
Its the same as C natural in the 1st octave.

Tommy

xoxx xoxx (i think)

Ben is right. I think you have to climb into it from x OXX XXXX, then lift the midde finger of the lower hand. x OXX XOXX.

Tom is right play C nat in the 2nd octave.
Incidentally how many of ye think that the 2nd octave D is the back D??or middle D as it is sometimes referred to??? :confused:
Well think again ,if ye do a run from the C# in the 2nd Octave to the back D finger hole ye will end up with a Eb not ,as I suspect,some o ye think, a High d.
The reason I am even suggesting this is because on this particular thread ye are referring to a D in the 3rd octave.!!!Well this aint the case.it is High D in the 2nd register.
SlƔn Go Foill
Uilliam

The word ā€œoctaveā€ (meaning 8 in Latin) can be a little confusing. There’s 8 diatonic notes from D to D, but 12 chromatic notes. The term ā€œ1st octave,ā€ in the tin whistle, wooden flute, uilleann pipes world, means D4 to C#5. The 2nd octave starts with D5 and the 3rd octave with D6.

Here’s some online charts:
[u]1st octave[/u]
[u]2nd octave[/u]
[u]3rd octave[/u]

For all practical purposes though, the 3rd D on the uilleann pipes can mean either the D at the top end of the 2nd octave, or the D at the beginning of the 3rd octave.

Here’s the question though: does a 3rd D on the uilleann pipes reed vibrate twice as fast as the 1st D (bottom D) or three times as fast? And the waves in the air column?

Lorenzo..I think we are talking about the 2nd Octave D well at least I am!
I was merely pointing out,what I imagine is a popular misconception re: the Back D fingering in the 2nd Octave.
Uilliam

Well Uillie me boy, you’re right again but unfortunately, like a crippled, roe-ed out salmon at the end of a particularly brutal spawning run, you’re going to be beaten to death against the rocky current and eventually eaten by a bear. I’ve often argued the even more ā€œretardedā€ (meaning slow to come around) world-view of the Highland piper in these matters, meaning my A is my A, and if you want to play with me you’ll have to make your A the same, or in this case, high D is high D, it’s in my second octave, there aren’t any more octaves I have, so I really don’t care how Ludwig layed it out on a keyboard some centuries ago. There is no ā€œmiddle C,ā€ I only have a bottom or low C, and if I’m lucky, a high C etc.

It’s still absolutely foreign to me to even think of some external reference like a piano keyboard layout, or some mathematical model of all the audible frequencies starting on this apparently ā€œcomfortableā€ fitting of this one particular C at this one particular frequency right in the middle.

No, like you, if I don’t have one, I don’t really care about it so why would I ever allude to notes I don’t have?

Anyway, you play high D by sliding up to high B and hitting the key with your thumb.

Royce

I only use the 3rd D in 3-4 tunes, not that the tunes call for it. Depending on the reed (and chanter), the 3rd D can also be gotten by opening only the middle finger of the lower hand…
x XXX XOXX, depending on the approach, ie, the prep notes.

Trivia: name the tune that Liam O’Flynn climbs into the 3rd D.