How do you finger a third octave D?
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Get her drunk firstā¦
Sorry, ahem.
Its the same as C natural in the 1st octave.
Tommy
xoxx xoxx (i think)
Ben is right. I think you have to climb into it from x OXX XXXX, then lift the midde finger of the lower hand. x OXX XOXX.
Tom is right play C nat in the 2nd octave.
Incidentally how many of ye think that the 2nd octave D is the back D??or middle D as it is sometimes referred to??? ![]()
Well think again ,if ye do a run from the C# in the 2nd Octave to the back D finger hole ye will end up with a Eb not ,as I suspect,some o ye think, a High d.
The reason I am even suggesting this is because on this particular thread ye are referring to a D in the 3rd octave.!!!Well this aint the case.it is High D in the 2nd register.
SlƔn Go Foill
Uilliam
The word āoctaveā (meaning 8 in Latin) can be a little confusing. Thereās 8 diatonic notes from D to D, but 12 chromatic notes. The term ā1st octave,ā in the tin whistle, wooden flute, uilleann pipes world, means D4 to C#5. The 2nd octave starts with D5 and the 3rd octave with D6.
Hereās some online charts:
[u]1st octave[/u]
[u]2nd octave[/u]
[u]3rd octave[/u]
For all practical purposes though, the 3rd D on the uilleann pipes can mean either the D at the top end of the 2nd octave, or the D at the beginning of the 3rd octave.
Hereās the question though: does a 3rd D on the uilleann pipes reed vibrate twice as fast as the 1st D (bottom D) or three times as fast? And the waves in the air column?
Lorenzo..I think we are talking about the 2nd Octave D well at least I am!
I was merely pointing out,what I imagine is a popular misconception re: the Back D fingering in the 2nd Octave.
Uilliam
Well Uillie me boy, youāre right again but unfortunately, like a crippled, roe-ed out salmon at the end of a particularly brutal spawning run, youāre going to be beaten to death against the rocky current and eventually eaten by a bear. Iāve often argued the even more āretardedā (meaning slow to come around) world-view of the Highland piper in these matters, meaning my A is my A, and if you want to play with me youāll have to make your A the same, or in this case, high D is high D, itās in my second octave, there arenāt any more octaves I have, so I really donāt care how Ludwig layed it out on a keyboard some centuries ago. There is no āmiddle C,ā I only have a bottom or low C, and if Iām lucky, a high C etc.
Itās still absolutely foreign to me to even think of some external reference like a piano keyboard layout, or some mathematical model of all the audible frequencies starting on this apparently ācomfortableā fitting of this one particular C at this one particular frequency right in the middle.
No, like you, if I donāt have one, I donāt really care about it so why would I ever allude to notes I donāt have?
Anyway, you play high D by sliding up to high B and hitting the key with your thumb.
Royce
I only use the 3rd D in 3-4 tunes, not that the tunes call for it. Depending on the reed (and chanter), the 3rd D can also be gotten by opening only the middle finger of the lower handā¦
x XXX XOXX, depending on the approach, ie, the prep notes.
Trivia: name the tune that Liam OāFlynn climbs into the 3rd D.