Help name this tune please

Hi,

Does anybody know the name of this tune? I don’t really “do” the abc’s so please excuse my feeble attempt below. Here is the beginning. It is not the Merry Blacksmith, but starts similarly.

d ABAFA ABdABAFA BEEDEFGA BCd(triplet) eCdCBCd

?? :party: ??

thanks

Let’s clean it up a bit, first (I’m no good at ABC either, but this much I can do, if I’ve understood your rendering):

ll: d3A BAFA l ABdA BAFA l BEED EFGA l (3Bcd ec dcBc l

As to the last notes, I settled for the guess that the phrase ends on c and the d was the downbeat for the the next measure; the other possibility to me is that instead it’s another Bcd triplet, to wit: (3Bcd ec dc (3Bcd.

Which is it? :slight_smile:

In any case it sounds like just another setting for Merry Blacksmith to me.

[ Nano: I cleaned your ABCs a tad … I don’t know what it is, either. - MTGuru ]

[ MT: I know I stink at this, but stop helping already!! :laughing: I’m workin’ on it. Okay. I think it’s fine, now. :wink: - Nano ]

Nano, you are a true abc wizard!

You are quite correct
ll: d3A BAFA l ABdA BAFA l BEED EFGA l (3Bcd ec dcBc l

I have not heard it referred to as another setting of the Merry Blacksmith (despite the obvious similarities). I was hoping it had another name :smiley:
It’s great to play if you want to confuse people at sessions.

thanks!

Actually, no, I’m demonstrably not, but thanks. :slight_smile:

Good going! You got closer than me; I treated the d, and then the d & A, as a pickup – but it kind of went pear-shaped at the triplet. Came up with a couple of interesting things, though :smiley: , which kind of got me wondering about slicing and dicing a few sets of ABCs by shifting a letter one way or the other, just to see what happens … :smiling_imp:

The only reason I’m thinking of it as a setting (it may indeed be considered as a separate tune in its own right, but I’m unaware of it), is that there is ample leeway to back up the more usual ABde f2ed Beed egfe run in B minor and thence to G for backup variation’s sake. With that in mind, the implied E minor in your version would make for a nice, tasty spinoff-type variation surprise. Could be, anyway.

I love doing that, the slicing and dicing. I came up with a whole new jig by shifting Rakes of Kildare down a step to Gmaj. Every now and then I’ll play it at a session, and everyone’s playing blithely along with a fair degree of success and wondering why they know it. Then I tell 'em it’s “The Lawnmowers of Kildare”, and of course I have to dodge a rain of thrown objects (and YES, it’s a conscious bollixing of the real meaning of “rakes”. I know what I’m doing. So there.). :smiley:

Maybe I’m not the first to have done it, but I’m the first that I know of. So, fly away, little Lawnmowers of Kildare jig!! Fly away. Spread the love to all sessions in the land. :wink:

Here’s the bones to it (Cnat and F#, of course):

ll: DGG GFG ABc d2e l fff dfd cAG FED l DGG GFG ABc d2e l fed cAF G3 G3 :ll
ll: gdg gdg gdg a2g l fff dfd cAG FAd l gdg gdg gdg a2g l fed cAF G3 G3 :ll

Confound and piss off your friends at a session near you. :smiling_imp:

No, don’t thank me. Playing The Lawnmowers will probably wind you up in the hospital. And please don’t try to come up with a cleverer name for it. It’s already been tried, and there just IS none better. :wink:

There’s a tune - the second tune after The Boys of the Lough in a classic Sligo set that goes all the way back to Michael Coleman - that’s called The Devils of Dublin. It’s basically a nicer version of The Merry Blacksmith. Perhaps it’s the tune you have here. You can hear this set played on quite a few recordings, among them Peter Horan and Fred Finn’s classic album and Catherine McEvoy’s first CD.

The only thing I can think of is the C part of The Old Road to Garry by Paddy O’Brien, which resembles bars 1 + 3 above.

Here’s the Norbeck ABC of the D setting, with the relevant part bolded:

X:363
T:Old Road to Garry, The
R:reel
C:Paddy O’Brien (Nenagh)
H:Originally in C, #595
Z:id:hn-reel-363
M:C|
K:D
AF~F2 ABdf|edBA BedB|AF~F2 ABdf|g2ag fddB|
AF~F2 ABdf|edBA (3Bcd ef|gfge fbaf|efde fdd2:|
a2fd adfd|Beed efgb|a2fd Adfd|gbag fdd2|
a2fd adfd|Beed efga|bgaf efdB|ABde fdef:|
**d3A BAFA|Beed egfe|**dF~F2 ABdf|gbag fdef|
dcdA BAFA|Beed cABc|dfaf efdB|ABde fdd2:|
faag fefa|bgaf edBA|fa~a2 fedB|ABde fd~d2|
faag fefa|bgaf edef|~g3e f2af|efde fdd2:|

Now John’s got me curious, so I’m scratching out the Devils of Dublin as I remember us playing it. (I’ll probably regret this later when I go look it up, but for now …) And … it is fiendishly close the The Merry Blacksmith; I remember getting the B parts mixed up a lot.

Ahhh, I used to love that tune; we need to get it out again. Thanks, John!

NB: I’ve literally written this down from memory; no MIDI or anything here at work to check it. I eyeballed it in dot form in the Tune-O-Tron and it looked OK for a five-minute job but I wouldn’t take it as gospel. Finally, I threw the sort of ornamented versions in the the second halves of the A & B parts; we used to play it simple the first time thru & more busy the second time thru each part. So apologies for any lameness (and I’m sure there’s much!)

X:1
T:The Devils of Dublin
S:Flute Styles for Suki and Somewheres Else, I Can’t Recall (The Mountain Road/Music of South Sligo recording, maybe?)
M:C
K:DMaj
|dcBA BAFB | AFBF AFEF | A~d3 Adfd | (3efe df e~B3| d2dA BAFB | ABdA BAFB ABde|fdec dBAG|F~D3:|| a2ag ~f2fe | ~d2dA BAFA | ABde fded | Beed ~e2 fg| abag fafe | defA BAFA | ABde fded | dBAG FA ~F2:||

Duh, Cath, could have just looked it up on JC’s … :blush: Oh well, it was a good exercise and definitely more fun that writing ads for hysterectomies and prostate surgery (which I get to go do now as I’ve fannied about long enough)!

X: 1
T: Devils Of Dublin
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
R: reel
K: Dmaj
|:d2dA BAGB|AFBF A~F3|Ad(3ddd Adfd|(3efe df e~B3|
|d2dA BAGB|AFBF A~F3|ABde fdce|1 dBAG FDFA:|2 dBAG FDD2||
|:agfe~f3e|dcBA BAFB|Ad(3ddd Adfd|(3efe df e~B3|
|a2ag ~f3e|dcBA BAFB|ABde fdce|1 dBAG FDD2:|2 dBAG FDFA||

Ring any bells, anyone?

Here, from memory, is my setting of Devils of Dublin. It’s basically the Lúnasa setting.

X:1
T:Devils of Dublin
M:C|
K:D
dB~B2 BAFB|A2BF AF~F2|Ad~d2 Adfd|efdf eB~B2|
d2cA BF~F2|AFBF AF~F2|ABde fece|dBAG FD~D2:|
faag ~f3e|d2dA BAFB|Ad~d2 Adfd|efdf eB~B2|
faag ~f3e|dfed BAFB|ABde fece|dBAG FD~D2:|

http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/486

Bravo, Kenny!

And there you have it. :thumbsup:

Hi

Did I hear that tune on one of the cds made by Gerry Harrington / Eoghan O’ Suilleabhain / Paul De Grae. - Sceal Eile or The Smokey Chimney? Thats what came to my mind when I lilted the abcs.

John