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what you think about that? I wished to have more money for to buy it.
It’s one of the few Hawkes & Son truly simple system I have seen
also in nice conditions and at a good price..
it’s not a pratten style (isn’t it?)…
But seems nice
Frank
Certainly looks to be a decent flute sold by a forthright seller as regards information about cracks etc. A Boosey that slipped under the radar, interesting
Well it isn’t a Pratten style and it isnt a Boosey !
It is a mere Hawkes.
“Well it isn’t a Pratten style and it isnt a Boosey !
It is a mere Hawkes.” Andrew
Aye, a Hawkes that flew under the radar. Could be a good player
What radar did it fly under ?
It was readily visible and available for anybody willing to settle for such a thing. ( I am no great Hawkes fan , perhaps wrongly ).
If you want to see everything on offer, Steampacket, you will have to get up earlier and work harder !
I thaught the 1920s French simple system ( open hole ) 5 key metal flute ( stamped P. Beuscher ) on offer at the same time much more interesting.
If my short memory is still intact Matt told to me, at last concert of the chieftains here, that he was playing a keyed Olwell and a Hawkes…
So buying this flute could not be a bad choose!
and it seems an medium -large holes made in about ..1900(?)
aren’t those all good characteristic ?
Frank
I sold Matt a Hawkes many years ago.
Isn’t the one he uses his Eb ?
Some of the better grade ones are nice, but how many of those do you see ?
I bought a headless 8 key Simpson a fortnight ago ( £ 31.50 ) which plays very well, and is now in the hands of a local flutemaker. Much better eBay value.
As for being made around 1900 being a good characteristic it is a warning sign that the instrument may be high pitch as the one offered seems to be.
Andrew, Matt once let me play his Hawkes which is in Bb, lovely flute although a bit unusual key arrangement.
Sven
I seem to remember Matt’s flute was a bit flat !
Must be well played in. He’s been using it for a long time.
Andrew - do you have an eBay link on that metal French simple system flute you found? Is it like a Clinton metal flute? I’d love to see a picture.
Eric
If I can find your email address I shall send you photos, Jayhawk.
If there is any interest I might be able to get Graham Farr of Livingston to put it up, he being such a good lad !
I should get the flute on Monday.
The flute is cylindrical with French style keys, but 6 open holes.
I bought it because I haven’t seen another.I don’t know if that is a good enough reason !
I read that Peter Broderick won the All Ireland Championship on a flute he had made out of a copper tube !
I keep promising myself that I shan’t buy any more flutes, but I could make an exception for a Clinton “Flute for India”, and a conical Clinton Equisonant, ( and perhaps a conical Boehm ).
Andrew - my email is on the button next to PM on each post - just click it and it will pop up. I’m fascinated by alternative material flutes, perhaps because my first conical flute was delrin (I still play a delrin Seery along with my rosewood sweet flute).
So, if it’s not too much trouble, pictures would be great!
Thanks,
Eric
Looks like a nice Flute.
"If you want to see everything on offer, Steampacket, you will have to get up earlier and work harder ! " Andrew
I’m not interested myself in seeing everything on offer as regards flutes. I’m not a collector, I’m more interested in playing, and I already have two of the best flutes ever made for Irish traditional music, a keyless Wilkes & a Dave Williams.
“I thaught the 1920s French simple system ( open hole ) 5 key metal flute ( stamped P. Beuscher ) on offer at the same time much more interesting.” Andrew.
Maybe, but probably too dainty and lacking the balls for rollicking, raving reels
I wouldn’t call it dainty either in constuction or tone .
I guess that cylindrical flutes usually lack the bite and kickback of conical ones but this may be more apparant to the performer than the audience.
We need Dhigbee to road test it !
andrewK: it is a warning sign that the instrument may be high pitch as the one offered seems to be.
1° - the Hawkes flute is a A=440 (seller wrote it)
2°- In my opinion Very Old wooden flutes could have wonderful sound & tone as no new ones… so they cannot be failed
Have a nice day
Frank
He said it was 440 with the slide pulled out. He also said it was a Pratten model ( !!! ) so one cannot take much notice.
Did you look at the footjoint ?
Looked high pitch to me !
John Skelton played a cocus Hawkes flute for a goodly portion of his career, and I don’t think it hurt him any.
Perhaps he played one of the good ones ?
Probably, although I think it’s got a crack in the head joint — I can’t remember for sure, but I think I recall him saying it happened in Australia and it was Michael Grinter who drilled a hole at the end of the crack it to stop it s progress! Anyway, he found it in a London pawn shop, etc., etc., etc. and it served him well for many years of touring and such until he got a cocus Olwell a few years ago.
(If memory serves, which isn’t saying a lot these days … )
His Hawkes does have a few idiosyncrasies, though, but on the plus side it has a lovely sweet upper register.
Cheers!
cat.