Does anyone know of a place that might have the dots for this? My son plays the melody on his whistle, and I’m thinking it might be fun to learn the harmony on my fiddle and play along. Thanks! ![]()
Is there a “standard” harmony for this?
Usually people have their own harmony
part… Do you have a particular one in
mind?
No, which is why I asked. He learned it from listening to ME play it on the whistle, so I don’t think he’s emulating a particular version either. And I wasn’t sure if there was a standard…I had thought of going through what I have and just working it out by ear, but I wasn’t sure if it might just be easier to get the music and have it in front me (it’s the classically trained musician in me rearing it’s ugly head, I’m afraid
).
Hmm…maybe it would be better to pull out what I have and start listening and working out something that will be good for both of our playing.
If you can sing the song it shouldn’t be too hard to come up with a harmony uniquely your own.
djm
Yes, but that would require work on my part. I would rather not have to think so much about it ![]()
I might give it a try in a bit, if you haven’t come up w/ anything yet.
You’re talking about the reel Sally Gardens, right?
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/98
Not the song “Down by the Sally Gardens”?
Oh, no, sorry. It’s “Down By the Sally Gardens”, the air. Terrence hasn’t really gotten into reels yet (although I keep telling him he should…he’s actually pretty good). We always just call it “Sally Gardens” and I didn’t think about it when I started the thread.
I was actually at a session once, and requested to play, “Sally Gardens”, when I meant “Down by the Sally Gardens”. I didn’t know there was a reel, “Sally Gardens”, and when we started, I played the air, while the rest played the reel; it was a big mess.
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Oh geeze..that totally sounds like something I’d do ![]()
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I’ve done a little playing around. Maybe this’ll at least
give you some ideas to get started. I had to try it in
MIDI, since I have no instruments at work, so it might
not be great once applied to an actual whistle & fiddle.
Here’s a pdf of the sheet:
http://natetunes.com/temp/Sally.pdf
The top line assumes whistle on melody and the bottom
line is fiddle on harmony (if you use another whistle for
harmony instead, bring the low B’s up to a D).
And here’s the ABC if you want it:
X: 1
T:Down by the Sally gardens
C:trad. Irish
M:4/4
L:1/8
K:G
%%staves {1 2}
V:1
GA|"G"B2AG"D"A2Bd|"C"e3d"G"d2gd|"C"e2dB"D"A3G|G6GA|
"G"B2AG"D"A2Bd|"C"e3d"G"d2gd|"C"e2dB"D"A3G|G6d2|
“(part 2)”"G"g2fd"C"e2g2|"D"f3e"G"d2Bd|“C"e2dB"D” de ga|"G"g6GA|
B2AG"D"A2Bd|"C"e3d"G"d2gd|"C"e2dB"D"A3G|"G"G6 z2||
V:2
z2|D4 F4| E2 F2 G4| =c2 BG F3D| B,6 D2|
D4 F4| G4 G2 AB| =c2 BG F3D| B,6 G2|
B2 A2 G2 B2| A3G F2 FG| D4 DEGF| D4 z2 D2|
D4 FEDF| E2D2 B,4| E2 D2 =C3B,| B,6 z2||
This is awesome, fearfaoin! Thank you!!! ![]()
A different setting was recorded by Planxty as “You Rambling Boys of Pleasure” on the album After the Break, with Andy Irvine singing. And at the end, Matt Molloy and Liam O’Flynn perform a lovely C whistle duet in harmony, so your arrangement is ready-made.
Here’s a clip of the duet. I don’t think the boys would mind posting this:
MP3 File: [u]You Rambling Boys of Pleasure[/u]
And here’s my transcription. I’ve added the lyrics so you can see how things line up. The first measure of each line is in 4/4, and the rest in compound 4/4 2/4 marked with dotted bars. Also notice that the melody structure is ABBA, so you really only have to learn 2 unique lines.
PDF file: [u]You Rambling Boys of Pleasure (Landscape)[/u]
X:1
T:You Rambling Boys of Pleasure
R:Song
S:Planxty - After the Break, Track 3
Z:MTGuru for Chiff & Fipple, 2009-03-26
N:Duet for two C whistles; Matt Molloy & Liam O’Flynn
N:Original key concert C
M:4/4 2/4
K:D
%%staves {1 2}
V:1
FE|D3E F2dc|B3A B<A-A2:D2 G2|A2cd ed cA:B2G2|A8:z2F2||
w:Down_ by yon flow-r’y_ gar_dens,___ Where me and_ my_ true_ love did meet, I
A3F ABd2|e3f dB3-:B2 z2A|B2d2 BAF2:EFA2|B8-:B4||
w:took her in_ my ar_(u)-ms,_ And un-to her_ gave kis_ses sweet_
A3F ABd2|e3f dB3-:B2 z2A|B2d2 BAF2:EFA2|B8-:B2z2||
w:(She)~bad me take_ love ea_sy,__ Just as the leaves_ fall from_ the tree_
D3E F2dc|B3A B<A-A2:D2 G2|A2cd ed cA:B2G2|A8-:A4|]
w:(But)~I being young and_ foo_lish,___ With my own_ true_ love I did not a-gree_
V:2
FE|D3E F2BA|G3F D<D-D2:D2 D2|E2EF AF EF:D4|D8:z2D2||
E3E D2FG|A2AF G4-:G2 z2F|G3G GFD2:DE FD|D8-:D4||
E3E D2FG|A2AF G4-:G2 z2F|G3G GFD2:DE FD|G3F G4-:G2z2||
D3E F2BA|G3F D<D-D2-:D2 D2|E2EF AF EF:D2D2|D8-:D4|]
MTGuru, I tried getting the Voices (V:) thingy to work in AbcMus, but it would never play back in sync, so that I eventually gave up. What sfwr are you using that can handle this correctly? Thx.
djm
Thank you as well, MT. You guys really do rock ![]()
Sure, Izz, you’re welcome.
You can try the MIDI that is generated by the Concertina.net converter, deej, which plays back in sync just fine for me.
The MIDI V: voices do work in my copy of AbcMus 2.0, once you blow past the error messages. (AbcMus doesn’t recognize the dotted bars, which are in the newer ABC 2.0 spec.)
I normally don’t use front-end ABC software. Just a text editor (Vim) for editing, then abcm2ps, abc2midi, and Ghostscript for generating the rest.
I have no idea how apocryphal the tale is (can you have degrees of apocryphality?), but W.B. Yeats heard the song “Rambling Boys of Pleasure” one evening, and on his way home he tried to keep the song in his head so that he could write it down when he got home. His memory was imperfect, so he came up with “Down By The Sally Gardens.” An English folk singer called Polly Bolton made a version which combined both songs, but I didn’t think it was very successful. I prefer to think that we have two songs, one superb one (the original) and one pretty good one (Yeats’ recollection). I agree about the Planxty version. It’s my very favourite second-coming Planxty song of all. I once tried to do the tune version of it with the Planxty harmonies with me on harmonica and my son on whistle, but we managed to get the most horrendous overtones that had everyone covering their ears!