Happy Easter

[djm]

My understanding of the term “pagan” was that it was used to describe those who lived outside of the towns and villages of Dark Ages Europe. Christianity was promoted in urban centres where the larger population could be readilyfound for proselytising. The pagani were those who lived outside town, and would not be within easy reach for those delivering the sales pitch. I believe the equivalent in English would be the word “heathen”, i.e. those who lived out on the heath.

djm

[PJ1]

@djm

My understanding of the term “pagan” was that it was used to describe those who lived outside of the towns and villages of Dark Ages Europe. Christianity was promoted in urban centres where the larger population could be readilyfound for proselytising. The pagani were those who lived outside town, and would not be within easy reach for those delivering the sales pitch.

I’m no expert but what djm says rings true. In addition, I recently read Dan Brown’s first novel, Angels and Demons, (the prequel to Da Vinci Code). He discusses the derivation of words such as pagan, Lucifer, Satan, etc., as all having been adopted by the Vatican from other words and given a sinister meaning.

[Nanohedron]

@djm

I believe the equivalent in English would be the word “heathen”, i.e. those who lived out on the heath.

Indeed, the word “villain” originally meant a city-dweller, who as such was presumed to be at least a shyster.

[Cayden1]

So we’re back at the villain pipes are we?

Jonathan, I suggest if you are so inclined to take the happy message and leave those who don’t want it in peace, to each their own. The Praisewhislters forum is the place to air your stuff, this forum isn’t.

[IRTradRU]

@Uilliam

In your book maybe,but not mine. :roll:
Slán Agat
Uilliam

Just out of curiousity, what’s the title of ‘your book’?

[Nanohedron]

@Peter Laban

So we’re back at the villain pipes are we?

BadaBOOM.

[Joseph_E_Smith]

@Jonathan

“Christians” that go about proclaiming hellfire and damnation are missing the point I think :roll:

Finally. It’s nice to know somebody understands this.

[feadogin]

@Nanohedron

@djm

I believe the equivalent in English would be the word “heathen”, i.e. those who lived out on the heath.

Indeed, the word “villain” originally meant a city-dweller, who as such was presumed to be at least a shyster.

I had heard that the word “Villain” comes from the word “villein,” or serf.

J.

[feadogin]

@djm

My understanding of the term “pagan” was that it was used to describe those who lived outside of the towns and villages of Dark Ages Europe. Christianity was promoted in urban centres where the larger population could be readilyfound for proselytising. The pagani were those who lived outside town, and would not be within easy reach for those delivering the sales pitch. I believe the equivalent in English would be the word “heathen”, i.e. those who lived out on the heath.

djm

Good definition, djm. It’s a Roman term, though, not medieval. More specifically, from Casell’s Latin Dictionary: “paganus (a, um): belonging to a village, rural…rustic [also] a villager, countryman, yokel.”

J.

[Nanohedron]

@feadogin

@Nanohedron

@djm

I believe the equivalent in English would be the word “heathen”, i.e. those who lived out on the heath.

Indeed, the word “villain” originally meant a city-dweller, who as such was presumed to be at least a shyster.

I had heard that the word “Villain” comes from the word “villein,” or serf.

J.

Dang. Can’t search the web at work to get to the bottom of this (wonder how I can access the Chiffboards, then?). Anyway, my understanding was that villein came from the urban connection…villa, -ville, you get the idea.

[IRTradRU]

from dictionary.com :

vil·lain ( P ) Pronunciation Key (vln)
n.
A wicked or evil person; a scoundrel.
A dramatic or fictional character who is typically at odds with the hero.
(also vln, v-ln) Variant of villein.
Something said to be the cause of particular trouble or an evil: poverty, the villain in the increase of crime.
Obsolete. A peasant regarded as vile and brutish.

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[Middle English vilein, feudal serf, person of coarse feelings, from Old French, from Vulgar Latin *vllnus, feudal serf, from Latin vlla, country house.

So…
From Latin to Vulgar Latin, to Old French, to Middle English.

[Lorenzo]

@Peter Laban

Jonathan, I suggest if you are so inclined to take the happy message and leave those who don’t want it in peace, to each their own. The Praisewhislters forum is the place to air your stuff, this forum isn’t.

Amen. I also refuse to discuss religion around something as sacred as the uilleann pipes.

[Uilliam]

@Peter Laban

So we’re back at the villain pipes are we?

The Praisewhislters forum is the place to air your stuff, this forum isn’t.

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Lorenzo
Amen. I also refuse to discuss religion around something as sacred as the uilleann pipes …

I echo both of ye…(or do ye echo me ?? )
leave your religion out of this,particularly as perhaps 8/10s of the population o this planet do not share your creed.

IRtrad…“The Dummies Guide To (insert here whatever ye like!!)”
Slán Go Foill
Uilliam

[mukade]

@Nanohedron

@feadogin

@Nanohedron

Indeed, the word “villain” originally meant a city-dweller, who as such was presumed to be at least a shyster.

I had heard that the word “Villain” comes from the word “villein,” or serf.

J.

Dang. Can’t search the web at work to get to the bottom of this (wonder how I can access the Chiffboards, then?). Anyway, my understanding was that villein came from the urban connection…villa, -ville, you get the idea.

A villa was a country house. A village is a small settlement in the country.

Mukade