Greetings!

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Cork, you’re back! Whoopee!

grousing about the snow…in July :smiley:

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Yr man has drink taken I think

Enamored of Finnish babes, I reckon.
Entirely reasonable.

I’d say that he might be Lapping somewhat… :wink:

Makes one wonder if he’s finished.

Ei, en minƤ ole Suomalaiset naiset rakastunut kanssa, mutta vaimoni, Hannele, ja hƤnen perhensƤ Suomesta ovat.

Of the above clips, the singers are Sami, not Finnish. The Sami are the indigenous peoples of what is now Scandinavia and northwestern Russia, and have been in that region for nearly ten thousand years(!). In the second clip they are seen wearing ā€œtraditionalā€ clothing, however, as there are several distinct Sami regions, the definition of ā€œtraditionalā€ varies by region.

Singing, however, in a form commonly known as joik, or yoik, seems to be a common tradition amongst the various Sami peoples.

The Sami languages and the Finnish languages are related, in remote history, but during the past few thousand years these languages have become so remote from each other that, for instance, a speaker of Finnish might only be able to understand but a few words of the Sami languages.

Meanwhile, I’m up to my ears in an ongoing project, but I thought I’d take a moment just to touch bases with y’all.

:slight_smile:

Ah, a moment of political correctness, please…

For instance, although the northernmost region of Finland remains known as Lapin LƤƤni, or Lapland Province, the term Lapp is currently considered to be derogatory. That is, the indigenous peoples of that region much prefer to be known as Sami.

Basically, the reason for this has to do with the association of the word Lapp with poverty, and the impoverished.

The Sami do not consider themselves to be impoverished.

So, Lapp is out, and Sami is in, please.

Whew, now I’m fin(n)ished!

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Edit: Sami (in Finnish = Saami) is pronounced as Saa-me, with the long a as an ā€œahā€ sound, with the i as the sound of e, and with the accent placed on the first syllable.

Edit#2: Not that I mean to split hairs, here, but Finns who live in the Lapland Province of Finland commonly call each other Laplanders, or in effect Lapps, but the Sami who live there are properly known as Sami. It’s a fine point, one with which the much larger number of Finns and the much smaller number of Sami are themselves familiar, but to otherwise avoid treading on thin ice, or worse, it’s simply better to completely avoid the word Lapp. Moreover, that same consideration equally applies wherever else the Sami live, in NW Russia, in Norway, in Sweden, etc.

Racial prejudice in that part of the world, BTW, is ancient. For instance, the northernmost province of Norway is known as Finnmark Province, and for many years the Germanic Norwegians simply called the Sami Finns (!), which perhaps could be telling as to how the ancient Norwegians saw the Finns at large. That is, to them there apparently was no difference, as Sami = Finn, and that was that!

Today, however, there is a much greater regard for the status of the Sami, the Norwegians and the Finns are now great neighbors, and that’s a good thing.

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I was being more serious (and correct) in the 2nd post :smiley:

Yes, I’ve seen that photo before, but, after all, it was taken something like 100 years ago, and certainly isn’t representative of Sami life today, although the Sami laavu, or tent, which closely resembles a Native American tipi, appears to remain as part of contemporary Sami culture.

Moreover, for anybody interested in contemporary Sami culture, try this.

Also, a Sami friend of mine lives in Kautokeino, Norway, at just over 69 degrees N latitude, and after a long, long winter, this is how the natives escape mosquitoes.

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ah, yes
the first link, at the bottom of the page, that the picture links to
(General: We are the Sami. Movies and fact sheets about the Sami people.)

Any interest in hearing a really fine Sami joik (song)?

Go to this site, then click on the ā€œWe are the Sami - Filmsā€, then click on the ā€œWe are the Sami - Introā€ thumbnail, and then close your eyes, and listen to the beginning of the clip. It lasts for about 55 seconds, and unfortunately there’s some talking over it.

(BTW, I tried to get a direct URL, but in this instance I got no cooperation, dang!)

Anyway, this all began with Sofia & Anna…

Enjoy!

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For a modern take on Sami music -

http://www.mariboine.no/

I have her new cd and great music it is :slight_smile:

After you listen to the short ā€œWe are the Samiā€ video, at the end of the video other video options appear in small boxes at the bottom of the screen. On one of these video a man is standing in his modern kitchen playing a very large transverse flute.
flute video

Nice find! I hadn’t seen that one.

I have some of her more recent CD recordings, and in the US, a couple of her recordings can be found at http://www.noside.com but apparently her latest two recordings are not there, unfortunately.

However, of Mari Boine, let me recommend a real mind blower, as the tune ā€œAHCCAIā€, as the final track on the ā€œRemixedā€ CD. Way, way far out!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qyspUNQ-l70

obnoxious inna he :smiley:

I gotta hand it to ya, Denny, as you always amaze me in your Internet skills, and yes, that’s exactly the clip.

D’oh, howdya do that? That is, I tried but failed.

Of that clip, moreover, for the first 55 seconds or so there is a beautiful joik (song).

…went to yertube & searched for it…

theirs was hosted by yertube so I knew it was there and that they had just altered the links in the icon on the far right/bottom of the vid box