Hey: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1518500222
Is it my imagination, or is there a nasty ding on the windway of this? I’m not thinking of buying it, but I thought it might be of interest to others…
Richard
Careful now, DrRichard, we’ve already got a lively thread going on the subject of silver whistles – let alone gold. 
That said, it sure looks like a ding to me. The question is, is it supposed to be there or not? I’ve never seen a whistle with a dented windway like that, so my first guess is not.
Looks like a bit of a bite mark to me.. It’s not very big because you can’;t see it in the side pic, just when the light is directly on it.
Chieften whistles are STOUT…the gold ones are even heavier and more stout than the originals. I’d be very afraid of any man, woman or beast that could bite a dent in one! 
I’m more inclined to believe it came that way from the factory (else, in my opinion, there’d be other marks from whatever caused the dent).
Greg
On 2002-02-27 17:36, avanutria wrote:
Looks like a bit of a bite mark to me.. It’s not very big because you can’;t see it in the side pic, just when the light is directly on it.
Someone BIT that ?..yow
Dan
Yes, I have an aluminum Chieftain soprano D- biting it hard enough to dent it would simply result in broken teeth. These things are very heavily built - I can’t see how a person could actually damage one without the use of brute force (like a ball-pein hammer).
A Chieftain made out of gold for $72…I think not. “Gold” refers to the fact that its a made out of brass. At least, that’s what I’m guessing.
Brent
Cheiftain Gold is a brand type…it’s brassish, though I don’t know exactly what alloy. It’s gold-ish colored, and heavier than regular chieftains. However, to my ear, they sound identical. It could just be that my ear is bad, though >:)
Greg
On 2002-02-27 20:26, kardshark87 wrote:
A Chieftain made out of gold for $72…I think not. “Gold” refers to the fact that its a made out of brass. At least, that’s what I’m guessing.Brent
Ooooh! I can NOT believe that no one has yet mentioned that DS has grounds for a law suit here!
Well, it is similar, not the same as, so I’m not sure he’d win that one…
Richard
Is it really worth buying on eBay ??
Sometimes prices are nearly what new merchandise goes for… and you (at least) get a guarantee buying new.
For the record, this is the 20,000th posting in the The Poststructural Whistle Board forum.
Yeah!!! do I win something ??
[ This Message was edited by: Tony on 2002-02-28 11:02 ]
The whistle was brand new, and made of brass. The apparent “dent” in the mouthpiece is a very slight depression from the high-pressure forming process that was amplified by the angle of the light in the photo. No discernable dent can be seen in the windway. So far, this slight dip in the top of the mouthpiece appears characteristic of all Chieftain whistles I have sold over the years. They still sound great.
On 2002-03-07 15:50, Lewis wrote:
The whistle was brand new, and made of brass. The apparent “dent” in the mouthpiece is a very slight depression from the high-pressure forming process that was amplified by the angle of the light in the photo. No discernable dent can be seen in the windway. So far, this slight dip in the top of the mouthpiece appears characteristic of all Chieftain whistles I have sold over the years. They still sound great.
Hello Lewis - welcome to the board, and thanks for clearing that up. Nice web site btw…
Richard
On 2002-02-28 10:58, Tony wrote:
Is it really worth buying on eBay ??
Sometimes prices are nearly what new merchandise goes for… and you (at least) get a guarantee buying new. …
Tony,
Occasionally bidding gets pretty high, but often you can save money. I’ve bought 2 Overton whistles (A and Low-D) and a Dixon 3 piece polymer flute through e-bay; all were in the 50-70 percent of retail price range.
Saving 30-50 percent is weighed against the risks.
On 2002-03-07 15:50, Lewis wrote:
The whistle was brand new, and made of brass. The apparent “dent” in the mouthpiece is a very slight depression from the high-pressure forming process that was amplified by the angle of the light in the photo. No discernable dent can be seen in the windway. So far, this slight dip in the top of the mouthpiece appears characteristic of all Chieftain whistles I have sold over the years. They still sound great.
I’m just dropping by for a Public Service Announcement here:
Much as I dislike Phil Hardy and his whistles, I’ve got to say that none of the half dozen or so I’ve played (including a Chieftain Gold Low D) had any sort of dent on the top of the mouthpiece. I don’t care what sort of lighting you put them under, that’s not “normal”. If the seller says that all his Chieftains look like that, well…that’s something to consider if you’re trying to decide where to buy a Chieftain. My suggestion is to stick with Thom at the whistle shop, and if you do get a Chieftain with any sort of dent or ding anywhere, don’t let anyone tell you it’s supposed to be there - even Phil wouldn’t do that to you.
I’d also like to point out that this “Sound of the Harvest” place appears to sell the absolutely useless ripoff Pakistani/Indian flutes that so many people have wasted their hard earned dollars on. Every flute player out there who’s tried one of these things will tell you they’re best used for firewood and are virtually useless for playing music. I shudder every time I think of the wood that’s being wasted on these things, it would be better put to use as toilet paper, seriously.
IMO, any shop that sells these “instruments” obviously has little interest in proving people with usable instruments, either that or they are totally ignorant about woodenflutes in general. In either case, would you want to purchase from a shop like that?
Please folks, be careful who you buy from out there…
Loren
(Edited to remove language likely to start a flame war.)
[ This Message was edited by: Loren on 2002-03-07 18:01 ]