free pedigree software?

Does anybody have any suggestions for free (or at least relatively cheap) pedigree software? The kind used by small livestock fanciers…whether it’s for cats or pigeons or whatever, I can use it (they don’t make any specifically for mice).

I used to use a cat one but I lost it when my computer crashed and can’t find it now.

Do you have access to MS-Word?

If so…ya just need a template…pick one

Yes.

Will those things calculate inbreeding coefficients, average litter size, have room for genetic information (mice have hundreds of known genetic mutations on dozens of alleles, at least with a cat one there were a couple dozen spaces) and all that stuff?

With small livestock you often go through five generations in one year, so you need a very detailed program to keep up with information. It’s not like with horses, or even cats really.

Speaking of which, what do you use for your horses (OMG! I remembered that you have horses)?

not likely…even if you found one that used Word & Excel.

train them…

seems like that goes on forever

Are you extremely tall, or are they very short? Or is that a photographic illusion?

the first two out of the three

hobbit horses.

wot? Pippin & Mary? Hobbits? :laughing: Shirley :laughing:

da wife wit Team Hobbit

I went with my therapist once to pick up her daughter at the horse place and they had a little tiny horse like that. It was so cute. It reminded of a big clunky dog. :slight_smile:

yup…used ta be called minis (well minis are even smaller than these)
since updated to the more politically correct Very Small Equine (VSE)

these are actually at the short end of the pony class

Smaller mice live longer than larger mice, just as smaller dogs live longer than larger dogs.

Do smaller horses live longer than larger horses?

yeah…pretty much

except for the draft horses,
they have a slower metabolism rate and live longer.

It’s even true among people: Japanese live longer than anybody.

I thought that was changing with their diet.

Yeah. It’s dietary, not size.

Not quite right there. Size is a factor in that many of the large breeds do have a shorter life expectancy but there are plenty of breeds that are of vastly differing sizes that have the same average life span. Chalk that up to breed type/genetic tendancies, typical life styles. Granted many of the smaller breeds are among the longest lived, but not necessarily all.
Oh, and your average life span of the great Heinz 57 is 13 yrs.
I found the following on good old Wiki and it jives with what I know about their lifespans, so seems about right to me…

Sorted by expectancy
Exp.
(yrs) Breeds
6 Bulldog, Irish Wolfhound
7 Bernese Mountain Dog
8 Bullmastiff, Great Dane
9 Doberman Pinscher, Flat-Coated Retriever, Rhodesian Ridgeback, Rottweiler, Scottish Deerhound
10 Boxer, Cavalier King Charles Spaniel, English Toy Spaniel, German Shepherd, Norfolk Terrier, Staffordshire Bull Terrier, Weimaraner
11 Airedale Terrier, Corgi, English Cocker Spaniel, English Setter, Gordon Setter, Irish Setter, Old English Sheepdog, Samoyed, Welsh Springer Spaniel
12 Afghan Hound, Basset Hound, Bearded Collie, Bull Terrier, Cocker Spaniel, Dachshund, German Shorthaired Pointer, Golden Retrievers, Irish Red and White Setter, Labrador Retriever, Lurcher, Rough Collie, Scottish Terrier, Standard Poodle, Viszla, West Highland White Terrier, Yorkshire Terrier
13 Beagle, Border Collie, Border Terrier, Cairn Terrier, Chihuahua, Chow Chow, Dalmatian, English Springer Spaniel, Greyhound, Jack Russell Terrier, Pekingese, Random-bred/Mongrel, Shetland Sheepdog, Shih Tzu, Wire Fox Terrier, Soft Coated Wheaten Terrier
14 Bedlington Terrier, Miniature Dachshund, Miniature Poodle, Pomeranian, Tibetan Terrier, Toy Poodle, Whippet,

Of course there are exceptions and statistical outliers. Some white people live longer than some Japanese people. Some breeds of larger dogs live longer than some breeds of smaller dogs, but over all, smaller dogs live longer.

Are they American Shetlands?

Redwolf

Pippin, on the left, is half Arab/half Shetland
Mary, on Pippin’s right, is (best rumor at this point) a Shetland/Hackney cross

they’re both 11.3 hands (47 inches)

Pippin has always been Pippin, he was breed by one of the universities for testing…he refused to contact whatever disease they wanted him to host and was thrown out of school and bounced around for a couple of years until we got him. We taught him to drive single the 1st year with us. The second year he spent a bit of time as half if a mismatched team.

Mary was a rescue, she was later rescued from the original rescuers… She is much older than Pippin and has obviously been a cart show pony. She’s had a rough time in between but her weight and attitude is much better since she’s moved here. She came without a name and with only a vague history.
It’s a small world about here…I’m sure we will find out her story in the next couple of years. :smiley:

what’s an American Shetland? :laughing: I’ll Google after I post the APoD

now ya’ve done it…
the wife called her a Modern Shetland 'cause she’s got hackney
the Shetland site calls her an American show pony 'cause she’s got hackney

we’re wrappin’ day 3 of a 4 day weekend…I’m not gonna mention it :smiley:

Who’s the good lookin’ one with the Red hair?

Slan,
D. :slight_smile: