Electric whistle

This post is half April Fools and half serious question.

Has anyone ever made an electric whistle? Instead of finger holes, there could be six electric keys that would control a synthisizer. Volume would be controlled by blowing into a mouthpiece that has a pressure sensor.

Advantages- one whistle could be programed to play in any key from low, low, low all the way up to silent dog whistle. And, it would be small enough to make low whistle availabe to people with small hands or carpel tunnel problems. A commercially viable product would be programable to imitate various instruments. A pocket bassoon would be too cool!

Or maybe I’m too crazy. Has anyone ever made such a beast?

Dwight

If they have I want one!!
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… think people would appreciate the third octave coming out of some top-end speakers?

ive thought aobut that before… another advantage would be that you could plug headphones into something like that so you could play in public, at night, on the train whatever and not bother onyone (or you can jsut do that witha regular whistle and bother everyone, either way)

Now that would be very useful.

Would this really be any more appealing than setting your electronic keyboard on a whistle-like setting?
To my taste, such a thing would completely lack the acoustic charm of an air-blown whistle.
And if it’s electronic…why stick it in your mouth at all–there would be no need to blow. Which brings me back to the keyboard comparison.

Other thoughts?..not trying to be a curmudgeonly wet blanket…

This may not be so crazy after all. If they can do it for piano keyboard, they can do it for wind instruments. The only glitch would be convincing a manufacturer that there is enough market. Whistlers may be too small a group, but a wider group would buy if the fingering were programable for difforent instruments. The full version would have recorder fingering, but could be programmed to let whistlers use the first six keys and trumpeters could use the first three keys.

Dwight

emmline-

You are correct. An electronic instrument would be a poor replacement for acoustic when played in the soprano range.

Acoustic seems less appealing if you are looking at a low instrument that doesn’t fit your hands or your budget.

Dwight

In the real world it would probably cost $400 to electronically ‘reproduce’ a $4 whistle.
Reference: bagpipe chanter
http://www.technochanter.com/

Producing clean clear notes is the easy part. It’s the nuances, tone bending etc. that makes it difficult.

If you’re just looking to record your whistle to a .wav file and then want to convert it to midi… try this software converter:
http://www.digital-ear.com/digital-ear/index.html

What your talking about is a wind controller. It doesn’t have to be invented it exists. It has been discussed here before. I believe if you search the site for wind controller you will find a discussion. But traditional music is acoustic not electric.

Ron

Thanks Ron,
It looks like there is a lot of info on the net. I prefer to play a whistle, but it’s still fun to read about other stuff.

Dwight

Designed to replicate a saxophone, the Yamaha WX5 wind controller priced at $600 makes no sound of it’s own but sends MIDI signals to a tone module that creates sound.

Yamaha created a monophonic acoustic tone generator model VL70M that is the most natural sounding tone generator. Thought it was released several years ago, they have yet to release a newer version.

The two units with connecting cable is over $1,200US

Electronic bagpipe chanters have been around for years. The problem with such a whistle is two-fold.

1, Unlike pipes, decent whistles are cheap. There’s no financial advantage, and certainly none of the guilty pleasure that comes from buying a new whistle every few wfeeks or months just to have something different.

  1. Pipes are, as I understand it anyway, basically one octave instruments. A good whistle can do three. For me the hardest part of whistling is not hitting the right keys, it’s the breath control you have to learn in order to make it sound consistently like you want it to sound. I don’t see how you’d get that training/learning from a touchpad.

After looking at what’s on the net, I think I would only buy if the product were more portable, a little less costly, and used the same finguring as other instruments that I am interested in playing.

There is one possibility. The acoustic penny whistle.

Dwight

Somebody (in France?) makes recorders and whistles with built-in transducers. We discussed them once. I can never find that URL when i need it.

g

Here it is:
http://members.iinet.net.au/~nickl/bolton.html

I’m surprised that there aren’t more people making instruments like this.

g

He has a patent on the microphone in the recorder head. Someone would have to make improvements or a total different design that would not infringe on his patent.

Ah, lovely things, patents! I’m sure he’s making a lot of money out of this… :roll:

The site says “patent pending”. I guess it’s pended already, then?

There was a discussion once, but I can’t find it, or an electronic whistle

Essentially, it had a pressure sensor in the mouthpiece and 6 light sensors for the holes… these allowed for bending notes and so forth…

Very expensive though

Here’s another link with more pics, and up-to-date prices in Euros:
Philippe Bolton http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/philippe_bolton/electrgb.htm

I understand he has a patent on integrating the mike. And adequate brand name too: “Bolton” miked recorders…

He also makes whistles in soprano and low D, says he can make them in the “electroacoustic” variation. http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/philippe_bolton/sixtrgb.htm

However, we never met, and I never saw his whistles.

I’ll inquire to see if he attends trade shows or festivals…