I love what “Educciman” does with this whistle.
It appears to be a G whistle, with OXOOOO fingering for Fnat. I assume that F# would be OOOOOO, as on any other whistle, so I’m a bit confused as to how that Fnat fingering is possible. But I’m pretty sure I see him using it.
Ubizmo
Great find ubizmo and great whistle.
Hope to know more about it, the fingering seems interesting.
I’ve asked whether the fingering is the same as on the quenas that he makes. The fingering for them is here. I know that other whistle makers use thumb holes–there was a recent thread about it. I don’t know if they do it the same way.
That fingering chart says nothing about what note you get with all holes open.
Ubizmo
Jazz whistle …I’m totally blown away. A couple of interesting things I noticed… the bore seems to be quite large (unless that was just a weird perspective trick the camera was playing), and the shape of the air passage on the mouthpiece is curved with a flat bottom. I’m not sure if that’s being done on other whistles, but I haven’t come across it.
Yes, the bore looks huge. And he says something about “extended holes” in reply to my comment. I’m not sure what that’s all about. Elliptical tone holes, maybe?
The Clarke Original has a square fipple plug with a rounded arch over it, so the windway shape is similar.
Ubizmo
I think something like that is going on. If you pause the video at the 2:15 mark, it appears that the second hole from the bottom is shaped like the number 8 and the hole above that appears to be slightly elliptical.
The only Clarke I have is a Freeman tweaked Sweetone which has a rectangular windway. I’ve never seen a Clarke Original. I’m still blown away by that piece he played. It reminds me of the first time I heard the McDades version of Rocky Road to Dublin. They turned the folksong into a beautiful jazzy piece of music. If you haven’t heard it, a clip can be heard on Amazon.
Yep, I can see it now. Several holes are elongated. And if I’m not mistaken, the labium is round. In fact, looking at the whole shape of the thing, I’d say it’s one of his composite (paperwood) quenas, fitted with a fipple. The wall is fairly thick, like the quena, too. The quena usually has a rounded or V-shaped blade.
It’s hard to guess how much wind it takes him to push all that sound out. As I get answers, I’ll ask more questions on the video.
Ubizmo
Not sure about the fingering but it appears to be a quena bore with a whistle head. It could be a standard quena finering but it has small holes which allows him to cross-finger certain notes.
It’s not standard quena fingering. This is the intriguing part. The Educci quena (of which I’ve heard very positive reviews, incidentally) has a different fingering from the usual. If you look at the Educci fingering chart, you can see that the fingering for Fnat is X|OXOOOO (the first X is the thumb hole). That’s the fingering used on a recorder (and a sax), not a quena. I haven’t seen that fingering on a whistle.
To get F#, you lift the thumb, which would give you G’ on a recorder. On a recorder, of course, F# would be X|OOOOOO. The fingering chart doesn’t say what you get with that or with O|OOOOOO.
I’m not sure whether I’d like this fingering or not, but it’s very interesting.
Ubizmo
Thank’s a lot for your nice words and the entire discussion. From this day on, I am also member of your
chiff&fipple.com.
I’d like to envite you to my youtube - channel : educciman
Check out all my vids.
You will find some interesting instruments I made in the past 10 years and still work on new developments…
for instance some of my sideblown flutes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ5urFVs_t4
Educciman, welcome to the neighborhood.
Yes, welcome to C&F! I hope you do another video demonstrating that jazz/blues whistle. I’m certainly very interested in that sort of thing, and I’d like to have a better understanding of the advantages of the fingering.
Ubizmo
Finally got around to checking this out. Great sounding whistle - great playing! Most impressive!
An A or Bb version would also make a kick-butt kwela/jive instrument as well.
(Yes - the bore as seen in the first video seems huge by normal whistle standards.)