Doodle Tonguing

Looking at the various tutorials, on-line and otherwise, I note that double- and triple-tonguing is widely used. Does anybody use doodle-tonguing? This is a technique used by trombonists for rapid legato passages (trombonists have to tongue nearly every note or they glissando all over the place). It basically involves articulating “doodledoodledoodle …”. It’s a softer attack than normal/double/triple tonguing and my experience has been that it can be done as fast as double- or triple-tonguing (by using doodledadoodledadoodleda.. for the triplets). As an added feature, it has sort of an natural swing to it (great for jazz), a similar swing to that I’ve heard Irish fiddlers, accordionists, and flutists use on reels. Anybody do anything like this on whistle?

Joe

I do it sometimes in reels. Not very often. The fiddle teqhnique which you referred to sounds exellent with this doodle-stuff. It’s one of those things that really bring the tune into life.
BTW, it sounds better on flute.

Arto

That’s the only kind of double and triple tonguing I use mostly because I just can’t get the the tuh-kuh-tuh tuh-kuh-tuh thing coordinated (yet). The problem is that a lot of times you want a staccato effect and the softer d-l combo won’t give it to you.

In the late 17th & early 18th century a number of musicians/music teachers wrote about articulation using various types,including “tiri-tiri”, “tara-tara”, “diddle-diddle”,
“taka-taka” etc. - different syllables to produce different effects. Check out Baroque Performance Practice sites if you are interested in this kind of thing.
Sue

On 2001-08-30 23:28, jomac wrote:
Looking at the various tutorials, on-line and otherwise, I note that double- and triple-tonguing is widely used. Does anybody use doodle-tonguing? This is a technique used by trombonists for rapid legato passages (trombonists have to tongue nearly every note or they glissando all over the place). It basically involves articulating “doodledoodledoodle …”. It’s a softer attack than normal/double/triple tonguing and my experience has been that it can be done as fast as double- or triple-tonguing (by using doodledadoodledadoodleda.. for the triplets). As an added feature, it has sort of an natural swing to it (great for jazz), a similar swing to that I’ve heard Irish fiddlers, accordionists, and flutists use on reels. Anybody do anything like this on whistle?

Joe

One of our members just posted a reel to Clips n Snips with an excellent example of the technique. Check out Mick’s recording of “Mason’s Apron”… amazing!

Teri