i try to find recorded version of ships in full sail jig with 4 part, but fruitless …
only find wbajzek 3 part version on you tube and his comment:
‘This is a three part version of Ships in Full Sail that I learned from Fintan Vallelly at Friday Harbor Irish Music Camp this year. He taught four parts, but I didn’t like the fourth.’
does anyone may help me with 4th part…?
marin
Marin - I’ve heard rumors that there is a 4th part, but I’ve never heard anyone play it. In fact, I more commonly hear it played as a 2 part jig.
Do share if you find a 4th part!
Eric
eric, here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzAPJwhO3d4 you could find again another 3 part version …
but, still without 4th part…
marin
I’d never previously heard it with more than 2 parts, common session tune that it is… notwithstanding the comments on The Fiddlers Companion entry - which gives the 3-part setting. The Session has some variants but no specific 4th part mentioned at all on the Comments page. There have been recent threads mentioning folk contacting Fintan Vallely on other matters, and his helpful responses - I suggest finding his contact info and asking him direct for a notation or recording?
I’ve first heard it in 3 parts, played by Barry Kerr on the first WFO. Never heard of a 4th part…
I have Fintan’s version somewhere, I’ll try to unearth it and put it down for you. Don
don, great …!
i really would like to have his version…
i really like his northern, lively style.
marin
Can we have it too? Pretty please? Or, at least, can I have it? ![]()
There is a 4-part jig called “The King”, which has similarities to “The Ship In Full Sail” - I posted it at the “Session”. I wonder if that might be the “version”, but Jem’s advice is the best - email Fintan and ask him. I’ve known about the 3rd part for a long time, - usually played when the jig is played in “A” rather than “G” - but never come across a 4th.
Found it!
DGA Bdd Cee dgg
DGA BdB ABG AGE
A nice variation I think. Fintan said it was a bit of Scottish influence as I recall. Don
Does the rest of it go:
| DGA Bdd | Cee dgg |
efg dBG | AGF G3 |
or something like that?
Interesting. If I read the ABC snippet correctly, that’s the C part of a tune called Miss Walsh’s Fancy. Here’s Norbeck:
X:260
T:Miss Walsh’s Fancy
T:Kane’s
R:jig
H:Also with parts switched around CCBBAA, see #297
Z:id:hn-jig-260
M:6/8
K:G
DEG BAG|dGG BAG|DEG BAG|ABA AGE|
DEG BAG|dGG BAG|gfg dBG|AGE G3:|
|:~g3 ded|BGB def|g2e dBG|AGE GED|
~g3 ded|~B3 def|g2e dBG|AGE G3:|
|:DEG Bdd|cee Bdd|DEG BdB|AGA AGE|
DEG Bdd|cee Bdd|~g3 dBG|AGE G3:|
Now as Kenny H. notes [u]here[/u] on The Session, the A part bears a resemblance to Ships in Full Sail, though I don’t see it so much myself. Still, it’s possible that Fintan’s 4th part is a borrowing from Miss Walsh’s if he heard the same resemblance.
Also note that the 2-part version on The Session corresponds to the switched-around CCBB version of Norbeck, with the A part missing.
I thought this might be a question about sailing. I’ve seen some quick correct replies to some non-music questions here and appreciate the wealth of knowledge available. I just wanted to see why this question was posed in the flute forum.
Because we’re talking about Fintan’s version as played on the flute? Anyway, the rest of that part is:
DGA Bdd Cee dgg
edg dBG AGE g__
Ah, that confirms that it’s the “borrowed” part from Miss Walsh’s Fancy.
thanks to don and rest of you guys…!
i intend to record this four part jig and than i will post it on this forum …
marin