Do you use the C natural key for ornamenting?

A question (I’ve lifted this from another thread)
to people who play keyed flutes-- it’s possible to
use the C natural key in ornaments, e.g. rolls, cuts.
You can, in rolling the A, for instance, tap the
key instead of lifting L1.

Do you ever do this? Or do you leave the
C natural key out of ornamentation?

I do it regularly. I tend to “cran” B and A when I’m lazy by cutting with LH3 and the Cnat key.

I’ve mucked around with that idea once or twice, but I never found anything that sounded better than whatever other ornament I was trying to replace. I will sometimes delay hitting the C key, which gives a B grace note, but I wouldn’t do anything like cut wih the C, if that’s what you mean. The low C key is a more likely candidate for that sort of thing.

On a related topic, one of my flutes has a D trill key. Using that, I can get a nifty A roll, which is pretty cool in the right spot. Cheers,

Rob

p.s. On second thought, I think I have tapped the C key the odd time to get a grace note above the B. Can’t think of which tune, though…might have been an air.

I seldom use the upper Cnat key in ornamenting. Habit, I suppose.

Sometimes. Depends on the tune and the circumstance.

I echo Dow, but just for the hell of it, here are vid clips from two different angles showing B rolls to keyed C natural in a tune that can be played to accentuate them - Humours of Whiskey - no reason not to cut the B rolls with L1 to C#, but it has quite a different effect - subtle but noticeable, presumably because the C nat is in the mode and the C# isn’t. Playing casually without thinking about it, I probably would mix keyed and L1 cuts and not necessarily roll as many of the Bs as I did here, but I was concentrating on demonstrating how well it works if you want to do it (for Jim’s benefit).

Re: the parent thread now drowning in equine doo-doo, in the scales in this tune across the break you can see I’m using the cross-fingered C nat oxo xxx.

Humours of Whiskey Video Clips:
1. - end on view
2. - front on view

The c natural key can be used for trilling from a to b xxo ooo instead of lifting L2

There’s a bit in “The New-Mown Meadow” that uses C natural for a roll that always sounded muddy to me until I tried using the C natural key. End of problem. So far, it’s the only tune where I use the key for an ornament. However, I use the C natural key for tunes that contain C natural all the time, although sometimes I use the cross fingering even though the key is there. Depends on how the flow of the fingering goes for any particular tune.

I like to do a finger bounce on the long ‘c’ key and on the short ‘F’ key.
Throw your finger down on the key, let it bounce up then come down once more to end. -George