Can anyone stand to look at it anymore?
Dude, you’re on a rampage this morning! ![]()
Times, and most other serif style typefaces, is hard to read on a computer screen. Sanserif faces tend to be easier to read on a screen. However, on paper, Times is one of the most legible fonts, whereas sanserif fonts tend to be more difficult to read on a printed page.
Times also happens to be one of the most efficient typefaces. Without looking compressed, it takes up less space in a given point size than most other fonts. Under some circumstances, this is very useful.
Best wishes,
Jerry
Dale. Put DOWN the mouse. Step SLOWLY away from the computer. Go and pick up a whistle.
There - don’t you feel better? ![]()
P.S. - maybe you’re still breathing in fumes from your “cat consecrated” monitor?
I hate most typefaces. There’s no pleasing me.
What bugs me is how Gothic has now come to be known as “sans-serif”. What a preposterously retrorse and mincing locution. Why can’t over-mascara’d, black nailpolished angstophiles have a typeface, too?
It wasn’t done by one of those Californians was it? ![]()
Gothic typefaces are sanserif, but not all sanserif typefaces are Gothic. There are hundreds of sanserif fonts, and the Gothic fonts are just a small group among them.
Best wishes,
Jerry
Oh, don’t bother me with the facts, Jerry.
Let’s bring back Irish Uncial, I say.
(is anyone else wondering why Jerry knows so much about fonts? does he have a secret membership in the Priory of Helvetica or something?)
A man has to have a hobby.
Slan,
D. ![]()
I can’t tell one font from another.
Which do we use here?
Background in marketing and marketing communications, copywriting, etc., with enough graphic design/typography to produce my own materials w/o assistance if necessary.
My father was a newsman before WWII, then advertising copy writer, then copy chief, then director of marketing communications planning for major ad agencies. My mother was an unpublished but fairly prolific fiction writer. Her second husband was copy editor for the Evansville, Indiana Courier, then photo editor and chief caption writer for Chicago Today newspaper, then chief copy editor for the Detroit Free Press. My father’s second wife was a high school English teacher, master’s degree in English literature.
This is the kind of stuff that’s been discussed around the dinner table in my various families since before I was old enough to write my name. I used to listen to my father’s dinner time tirades about “artsy fartsy graphics artists” who loved illegible masses of homogeneous sanserif type as a design element and specified “Hairy Helvetica” font.
Best wishes,
Jerry
Jerry, will you explain that?
I am not keen on TNR per se, but must admit I much prefer a serif’d font than a sans-serif font. TNR is just too angular for my tastes, and the space-saving features just make it that much more dense and harder to read. Any tasty Garamond, for example, is much nicer and easier on the eyes.
djm
She wrote several novels and numerous short stories, but none was ever accepted for publication.
Is that the sort of explanation you were looking for, or were you asking me to explain why none of her writings was ever accepted for publication?
Best wishes,
Jerry
Garamond is the world’s greatest font.
Garamond is the world’s greatest font.
Such superlatives prompt me to ask you to post examples so that I might admire them.
Garamond is the world’s greatest font.
I was going to say something more moderate about it, like, it’s a damn good font–one of my favorites, really. But I send everything out in either Times or Courier because that’s what’s expected.
I can’t understand how any non-black-letter fonts came to be called “Gothic”.
Here are a few that I made for Casady & Greene back in the early '90s.
Except for the last, none have ths slightest relation to either Times or Gothics.
(The images are screen fonts are not antialiased. The printed versions are much nicer.)








The last of these is Vremya, which is based on Times Roman. It’s the font that was used to print Gorbachev’s speeches during his last visit to the US before he shut down the USSR. After that, we heard from several customers that the Soviet Consulate in San Francisco was requiring all Russian-language documents to be printed using our Cyrillic fonts.
I’ve seen both Abilene and Black Knight on TV several times.
I’m sure I’ve posted the following here before, but here they are again.
Here’s a paperback novel cover using Black Knight for the title. The shape of the F has been modified in Photoshop. (The back cover has some text in Black Knight, too.)

And here’s a Bluegrass CD cover using Dry Gulch. I think Grisman may have done it himself.
