Got the general feel for the word, but would like a real definition (and pronunciation too).
Susan
(Whew! Almost forgot to check the archives - I did and there’s nothing there.)
What happened to my subject???
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Main Entry: de·fine
Pronunciation: di-'fIn
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): de·fined; de·fin·ing
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French & Latin; Middle French definer, from Latin definire, from de- + finire to limit, end, from finis boundary, end
Date: 14th century
transitive senses
1 a : to determine or identify the essential qualities or meaning of b : to discover and set forth the meaning of (as a word) c : to create on a computer
2 a : to fix or mark the limits of : DEMARCATE b : to make distinct, clear, or detailed especially in outline <the issues aren’t too well defined>
3 : CHARACTERIZE, DISTINGUISH <you define yourself by the choices you make – Denison Univ. Bull.>
intransitive senses : to make a definition
Guess what I am getting at is that there isn’t really a “set” definition that I know of. As far as I know, it just means good times, good conversation, good night on the town, good friends. Kind of a “mood of the moment” type word.
1.The craic is the feng shui of a se’siun. It is the combination of the music, the drink, the conversations, the spirit of the surroundings, and trying to make headway with people of the opposite sex. The craic is what drives all emotion and music that comes from the soul.
Pronounced “crack”. Somebody at the session told me a funny story about an american in Ireland getting invited to share some mighty craic in the back room of a pub
Amazed this thread hasn’t already turned into a flame war about the Irish plan to take over the world.
“Craic” is no more than an Irish spelling of “Crack”, which is a perfectly English word, as in “crack a joke”, and it’s pronounced exactly like the English word. It means fun, especially of a convivial nature, which is probably why we of the green and misty persuasion tend to think we have a monopoly on it. I prefer to use the English spelling, unless using it in an Irish-language phrase like “ceol agus craic” - music, chat and general enjoyment of good company.
I saw a discussion of the expression “the crack was 90” either here or on Mudcat not long ago. My take on it is that 90 mph used to be an impossibly fast speed for cars - “He must have been doing 90” used to be said of people speeding dangerously in the days when cars could barely do 60 mph - so “the crack was 90” means that the atmosphere/fun/enjoyment was so good that it was off the scale.
On 2002-07-26 12:22, Bloomfield wrote: Here > is as long a treatise as you’ll find on craig.
I don’t know this Craig that you refer to (although I do have a friend of the same name). Is he good craic? i.e. Good fun - good to chat with? And…‘a gas man’! (‘gas’ is used in some parts of Ireland a bit like craic - ‘we had a gas time’…he’s a gas man’. Fun. Síne é.
Pal o’ mine from Ireland was in the US, goes up to a (american) policeman, playfully asks “Where’s the craic?” (aka “where’s the fun?” more or less) and gets a very odd and confused look from the policeman…
Gotta love the culture clash…
(for those slow on the pickup craic sounds kinda like “crack” as in crack cocaine. not a good thing to ask a policeman about…)
The craic was mighty in the back room of a pub in Westport, Co Mayo. That’s where Matt Malloy’s Pub is but unfortunately it’s just a little hole in the wall. Wouldn’t have accomodated our rowdy group. Gm
An Irish-speaking friend of mine in Co Galway explained that not only is it pronounced “crack”, but that it is also an acronym where C R A I C each stands for a word denoting music, singing, dancing, etc. Trouble is, I just can’t remember the words, but I can give her a call if anyone is interested…
Never heard the acrostic interpretation of craic before, but as the last “c” I’d suggest Comhrá (conversation) - or possibly Céiliúir, which I suppose might be translated as social interaction (intercourse is the word I had in mind, but I didn’t want to be misunderstood)