changing strings

Not yet. But I’m planning on being able to attend NAMM next month. Yippie!

My ES-347 has the built-in fold-out peg winders in the tuner knobs, which I always thought was pretty decadent already! :slight_smile:

OMFG. If someone invents this for an acoustic guitar I will bear their child.

Start taking your vitamins… it’s not too far off! This company installs their auto-tuning system in Gibson’s Chet Atkins SST’s. Not that the SST is a true acousiic guitar, it’s not. It’s more of an acousti-lectric with a semi-solid body. But the idea will get to true acoustics before long. I keep poking my head in the prototype room up the road in Nazareth (goin’ up there tomorrow to pick up my 2011 Martin Christmas ornament) to see what they are testing. 2012 NAMM stuff is ready.

Feadoggie

Speaking of NAMM, anybody got a way of getting me in?

Kevin Krell

Not the entire string - just the extra part that is past the string peg.

I rub down my strings after playing, but I refuse to use Fast Fret since they went to the stupid plastic bottle that dries out. I just got a small bottle of bore oil and a nice cloth and use a drop of the oil on it. All my instruments have ebony fretboards, so it also helps condition them.

I’m not getting the quarter thing, either. Beyond the tuning peg, on the excess (I clip them)? Between the tuning peg and the nut?

To stretch my new strings so that they don’t immediately and frequently go out of tune, I tug on them, holding the string like a guitar case handle, with my hand positioned over the sound hole so that the forefinger side is towards the nut and peghead, pulling up with that side of the hand, while simultaneously the pinkie side (which faces towards the bridge) pushes down, so as not to be pulling the string at the bridge/saddle area, or the bridge pins up.

In trying to find Google Images illustrating the hand position I’m speaking of:

Weird Japanese s**t
http://en.gigazine.net/news/20100207_wf2010_w_k_on_matome/

Kevin Krell

All good stuff; let me add a couple of tidbits.


Like MT I pre-turn the tuner posts for convenience, but to a 45° angle (should be obvious which way it should lean). I thread the string through, leaving just enough slack to allow me to throw a single loop over the top of the tuner post. One I’ve wrapped that over, I bend the tag end sharply upward, which prevents the string from pulling back through.

I never use a lock wrap as it’s just not necessary if you string correctly. I believe it can cause breakage a the tuner, but mostly it just annoys your luthier when he’s trying to quickly de-string your axe.

And we don’t want to be doin’ that, now, do we?




Rob

Ah, I understand. That works (or might be useful) only if you don’t use the lock loop. With the loop, tugging on the extra part above the peg has no effect on the rest of the string, because the string is locked nicely to the peg and there’s no slack above the peg.

I saved my old metal Fast Fret canister to reuse it. Nyah nyah! :slight_smile:

Seriously, I prefer my strings without any kind of oil or goo. I use FF only when they’re getting grungy and I’m too lazy (or rushed) to change them. I condition and clean the fretboard separately with lemon oil now and then, and I pull the strings off or to the side to do that.

Yeah, sure. You just wanted an excuse to post that pic! :laughing:

Thinking about it, I also angle the hole slightly from the vertical, so that the string path is clear and out of the way of the adjacent pegs.

I figure my luthier has invested in a nice pair of needle nose pliers, and he’s just dying to use them. :slight_smile: My string breakage (rarely, and usually the darn G string) seems to prefer to happen at the nut, not the peg.

I’m guilty of preferring 3 or so windings on the peg. I know it’s not necessary. But I like the appearance, and it does lower the string angle over the nut. I don’t find the extra windings cause tuning problems once the string is settled.

Do you folks hire “your luthiers” on a full-time or part-time basis or do you keep them on retainer?

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Luthiers travel in packs around here. I live a few miles from Martin Guitar in Nazareth, PA. Because of C. F. Martin’s presence in the community I’ve postulated that there is a higher per capita number of luthiers here than most anywhere in the rest US except maybe Manhattan, Montana. 1 out of 10 people you meet around here make or know someone who make guitars or other instruments. The incidence is higher among those that actively play music. Depending on the circles you play in you will fast become friends with one or more craftsman and eventually own a piece of their work. It’s interpersonal networking at its best. So I feel right at home.

Here’s a photo of a small group of luthiers that were in town last summer.




Feadoggie

I keep mine chained in the basement. I guess a chain is a kind of retainer.

I haven’t worn a retainer since I was 16.




Rob

Mine lives on a farm in Missouri.

I zoomed into the photo. I was just in my luthier’s workshop last weekend and he told me about attending some stuff at Martin. Certificates are on his wall. He’s not in the picture.

That’s an interesting point you make about the per capita luthiers in your community. If I was young, I would find other factoids like that and plan my life accordingly.