I dont mean to sound rude, but many times i hear people call it celtic music, but it is truely irish music. The celts left no surviving music for they did not read or write and they is no tie between the two musics. Just thought i would share that with you. again i dont mean to sound rude.
Andrew Cassidy
I’ll very hesitatingly use the word “Celtic” if I want to encompass the Irish/Scots/Breton/Welsh/Galician/Cornish/Manx etc. thing , but the word leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I prefer not to use it any more if at all possible.
I generally avoid it as well, as it’s rather associated (incorrectly) with the Enya-type new agey crap, sort of like gum stuck to the bottom of your favorite pair of shoes…
But the Celts left Irish people in their wake (as did a few other groups) and the Irish people generally consider themselves Celtic (or celtic). I think it was cooler before it became a hip and commercial term.
I miss the days when I used to play the whistle and people would ask what the heck is that thing and what kind of music is that. I actually felt a little sheepish about it.
By the way, Cranberry, I kind of like that stuck to the bottom of my shoe feeling I get from Enya. Now, THAT’S real Celtic music!
Tony
who are you calling cranberry??
“celtic music” is a marketing term for the cd industry and the concert promoting industry. so, while not a good term, we all know what is meant. we also know that on this board we tend to call it what it really is- irish traditional, scottish traditional, etc.
the marketing term that irks me more, however, is “world music”. (a section in every cd store in the usa, for our many members north, south, or accross an ocean). the implication is that american music is not “world music”, that we are not in any way part of the world. in some markets, latin music will be in the world section. in others, latin has its own, as if it has become too popular to be world music. what is that about?
meir
I wonder, is “celtic” /s’eltik/ or /k’eltik/ ? Which one is more accurate? I’ve heard people say “Patric Celts (/s’elts/)”. “Celtic Angels (again, /s’ltic/)” etc etc.
Whoa! Sorry. It was the wacky Pharoah (no way can I spell that one) looking guy with the “Oh s***, the Red Sea is unparting and I’m in the middle of it” look. I tune in to the board just to see what Cranberry will put up next, you know? I need to up the shock value of my own avatar, now that I think of it.
Tony
Should I rethink my plans to put an Enya page on Clips?
“How can I keep from smiling…”
That’s Captain Jack Sparrow from Pirates of the Caribbean, thankyouverymuch.
Etymologically /k’eltik/ is correct as the term comes from the Greek Keltoi. There is no letter relevant to “C” in Greek. They either used “S” or “K”. In the Romance languages though it’s /s’eltik/ even though in Classical Latin the letter “C” was always pronounced as “K”.
That’s the extent of my knowledge on the matter.
Cheers,
Aaron
Tony, haven’t you seen Pirates??? It is a terrific movie! I’d never seen Johnny Depp in anything before but loved him. Orlando Bloom was great, too. They all were. Hilarious show!! You need to go see it. 
One of my favorite lines…
Jack: “You forgot something very important, mate.”
Barbossa: “And what would that be?”
Jack: “I’m Captain Jack Sparrow.”
Regarding the “Keltic/Seltic” thing: I’ve always heard “Keltik” when it refers to the culture/people/music, and “Seltik” if it refers to the sports teams.
Pirates of the Caribbean rocked!! With both Johnny Depp and Orlando Bloom it was Eye Candy Heaven. 
Sometimes with eye candy movies, something is left lacking, but the acting and action were really great, IMHO. When I first saw the movie, I hadn’t realized that Orlando Bloom was in it (and had only seen him in one movie previously, y’all know which one )… so I spent the first bit of the movie wondering what in the heck I had seen him in before. You should have seen me when I finally mentally slipped the long white-blond wig and ear tips on him, and realized! 
I think I need more coffee.
Sam, your avatar is great.
~Andrea
Oops, realized that I just participated in thread-hijacking. Sorry Andrew! To add something more relevant, I would hesitate to be so broad as to say The Music is only Irish. What about Welsh, Scottish, etc?? Irish isn’t the only type of music from the British Isles played on the whistle… so unless someone wants to spell out each type every time they are speaking in a general sense, sometimes it’s okay to group them together under the heading of “Celtic”. I figure if some of the wonderful players from the actual regions we’re talking about can refer to themselves as Celtic musicians, it’s probably okay to do so from time to time. I think that’s even addressed in Celtic Tides, a wonderful program/book/cd that has interviews with many well-known musicians.
And I’m with Cees… Celtic pronounced as sel-tic is the sports team. The other kind is with a ‘k’ sound. 
I wonder why you always find Enya in the Pop/Rock section of the record store, and the Afrocelts, Capercaillie, Leahy, and Great Big Sea in the World/Celtic section? 
Sometimes someone will ask us if we are playing “s’eltik” music. The normal answer is “None of us know any basketball tunes.”
Men with eye makeup. harrumph. Decent movie tho.
It’s not makeup, it’s kohl, and it’s the same crap that was used by the Egyptians and was common among sailors of the time. It’s meant to cut the glare off of sand, grass, or in a pirate’s case, water. It’s similar in fuction to the dark fur around a cheetah’s eyes, or the black junk that football players put on their faces, for example.
Darn, Sam… you just took all the mystery away for me! I was happy just being taken back to my high school days, when all the cool guys wore black eyeliner!!
Come to think of it… that was also about the time of my first glimpse of Johnny Depp, back on 21 Jumpstreet! Anyone else remember that?!
Andrea
Yet another of your quips that I’ll borrow, if you don’t mind.
Since his performance was admittedly based on Keith Richards, it could very well be considred make-up…
Or maybe, immediately kick into a spirited redition of “Sweet Georgia Brown.”