Hello, I was playing notes in making a D minor tune on my B/C accordion
and realized that I was playing the C natural note just below the D as an intro note.
This C sounds really nice in D minor.
I am new to flutes, with the help of a key can that C natural below the D be played on the flute.
I just assumed that without a key it is not possible.
What I was playing was the D first octave, same as the low first octave D on the whistle.
Of course it would tantamount to the low D on the flute.
Such a beautiful note in D mionor.
Ronald
modes? really? modes? i hate modes… i wonder how many musicians have managed to get through life without any more knowledge of modes than that they exist… or even no knowledge of modes at all… just wondering… i admit, i’m ignorant… key sig looks like F… sounds kinda sad… hmmm… D minor maybe?.. ow, well, beats me, still sounds good… i’ll just play it…
Ah. I’ve come across that before. In my understanding, the term ‘minor’ doesn’t only include the scale known in some classical music circles as ‘minor’. So, the only thing implied to me is the minor third at the bottom of the scale, and probably a diatonic mode (of one sort or another) for the rest of it.
Othanenn,
I usually wait till the post has no more responses so I can Thank everyone.
When you give Thanks to the first, second or third person that answers; some people sometimes will feel
that there are no more valuable answers to be given and will think that the post is no longer in need of their responses.
Perhaps I should do it your way and Thank everyone in advance…
I certainly did not mean to be uncouth or indifferent in anyway.
Thank You for your responses, especially you Othanenn for this particular post.
Ronald
Ronald: Yes, if you start a question thread, you should take the time to respond before starting a new thread.
What people casually call “D minor” trad tunes are usually actually D Dorian, with C-nat as the leading tone. Which is why the C sounds good. And the lack of the low C on pipes, whistle, and many flutes is one of the reasons that DDor tunes are less common, or are transposed to EDor with access to the low D leading tone.
FWIW the difference between D aeolian/natural minor and dorian is the raised 6th in this case it means D aeolian has a Bb and dorian has a b natural. The dorian mode can be thought of as aeolian/natural minor with a raised 6th, or a major scale starting and ending on the second note of the scale in this case it would be the C scale starting on D. In order to play a low C on flute you need low C# and C keys as both holes need to be covered to produce the low C.
MTGuru wrote…When you start a question thread, you should take the time to answer before starting a new thread.
I don’t even know how to transfer someones answer to my reply…
That makes absolute sense.
And I more than likely got overzealous in having too many questions about an instrument
that I am just learning.
Ronald
A tune that Kevin Burke plays so well on the fiddle is Strayaway Child. It is a good point in what I meant about
the C major note in a minor mode tune.
I remember years ago trying it on the whistle and saying to myself, " Damn it, I can’t get that low note, it’s not there".
Albeit I haven’t listen to it in a long while if I remember right it is in four parts.
But, regardless, it is such a fantastic beautiful piece of music.
Ronald
Beautiful tune, Strayaway Child. I learnt it from that old Kevin Burke recording of so many years ago. He plays it (on the recording I learnt it from) in E minor, which is perfect for whistle, as you have the D as a leading note.
I will have to check it out,
It certainly seems that I could never get that low note on the whistle but could certainly hit it on the B/C accordion.
In fact, to be fair I had completely forgotten about it till a saw the name of a member online with the name Strayaway child.
It was from the cassette package from years ago Learning the Irish Fiddle taught by Kevin Burke.
I just went and looked up the music it certainly is in E minor. And that note that I could not get I still can’t get it but it is not the C natural
it is the B natural, so there goes my thread; which brings me to this.
Can you hit B natural with a key on a D flute.
You guys do realize that I am building knowledge for further enhancements on the Irish flute.
Ronald
What, this one? Yes, that’s lovely (so thanks for bringing it to my attention), but…
I learnt it from that old Kevin Burke recording of so many years ago. He plays it (on the recording I learnt it from) in E minor, which is perfect for whistle, as you have the D as a leading note.