Rogge C# chanter with 4 keys for sale as delivery of C# full set by another maker is expected sometime this year according to an estimate made in August 2003.
This is an excellent instrument and I have enjoyed it immensely. It deserves to be played regularly. It’s great fun to put on an S. Ennis recording and to play along with this instrument. I’ve learned much about Ennis’ playing by sitting down with this chanter and attempting to emulate sounds and passages. It’s been fun to learn tunes from and play along with recordings of K. Rowsome and Liam O’Flynn as well (we isolated pipers do what we have to do to learn).
In my view, the workmanship is the best I have ever seen from Andreas Rogge. Just in case you wonder…I’ve seen a lot of Rogge sets on the West coast of the US from which to derive an opinion.
I have two functional reeds for the instrument. Both were made by Benedict Koehler. A couple of years ago, Kevin Rowsome and I stuck these two reeds in an old antique double chanter in C# he had in the attic…what a magical experience it was!!! The point is, they are in tune and nearly equivalent…but, I have a preference for (and bias towards) one of them.
Asking price is $1050 plus shipping and insurance…firm.
I need some help with the proposed sale. There are now about 5 in line to purchase the Rogge C#. The very first one who responded lives in another country and has requested that I grossly underestimate the value of the pipes, say at $50, so that said individual will not be required to pay taxes on import. I am most definitely in favor of personal transactions without the exchange of goods and funds giving benefit to any sort of imperial government and would like to help out this prospective buyer. On the other hand, if the chanter arrives in shambles or is lost I’m out $1000 of the $1050 purchase price. How do ye pipers think?
lewis, i am all for keeping a governments greedy paws out of the till, but it sounds like a $1000 can of worms or pandora’s box.
on matters like this, honesty would be prudent.
my 2 cents
best, tansy
OR - have the person pay you the full amount, get separate insurance for the correct value for shipping, but don’t show that on the package. Put a much lower value on the package for Customs’ sake. That way you get the price you wanted, the shipment is safe, and the buyer doesn’t get dinged needlessly by greedy government beaurocrats.
You know, I’ve wondered about that, though. Since I’ve (knock on ebony) never heard of anyone having to submit such a claim, I don’t know what would happen . . . and, living in the US (as I usually do) we luck out in that bagpipes are exempt from any import duty.
The instances in which I’ve heard of folks using separate insurance (like from a company that insures instruments for professionals, which can also carry coverage for shipping) is usually within a country, and then you don’t insure the item. If they wanted to see the packaging, and you ship across a border and the item insured with them for $1000 is declared as a $50 instrument, would they zap you for fraud?
I think if the item’s going to be insured, and it’s going anywhere other than the US, you might be stuck valuing it at the price for which you want coverage. Anyone know?
Any shipping insurance will be void if you declare a lesser value on the customs forms. Also note that customs are generally not daft and are quite capable of looking at a chanter and going, hmm, that looks like more than $50 worth of wood to me.
Bottom line: Not worth it to you, the seller to underdeclare it. If you still want to screw your various governments, the easiest way is to have it transported personally (though this is still obviously wrong and immoral, don’t do it, blah blah blah).
Will you post a picture for the history books?
Were you the first owner?
What style Fnat key?
The issue with Customs… Agents are trained to spot these things. I’ve heard stories when they suspect fraud they base taxes on the value of the item… not what what it was purchased for.
At any rate,
I suggest you pack the chanter in a smaller plywood box. Do not rely on a large cardboard box and styrofoam peanuts to protect it. Any cabinet shop could quickly cut some scrap for the project. I’ve been using this method for a while and it’s been very reliable. Whenever I received something in cardboard it’s usually crushed.
I am indeed the first owner. The gentleman to whom the chanter will go and I agreed to meet in Northern Ireland, when I’m over in February, to complete the transaction. It’ll be hand carried all the way.
I’ll post an image and sound clip for the sake of history once I figure out how to do so.
Lewis, I swiped the URL address off the red X box above. It probably just needs cased with at each end, but Tonys picture is the same one only much bigger and clearer. Thanks Tony. Nice looking chanter.
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