Bore Oil - Definitive Answers

I’ve checked archives and searched and have failed to find definitive answers concerning oiling the bore of wooden whistles. Looking in stores in the area, I have found ‘bore oil’ made by Yamaha, Selmer, et. al. The bottles do not list contents of the oil. I like my
Busman whistle and do not want to damage it by using products that are not ‘right’ for it.
To wit:

What, exactly, should be used to oil the bore of a quality whistle? Where can I get it?
How often should the inside be oiled? Outside? (Have read once a month - but have also read a lot of other opinions…)

Any other questions that I am too ignorant to ask, please answer.

I truly want to do this, correctly.
Best to all.
Byll

I think the following article on oiling recor***s should provide your answers:

http://www.earlymusic.gil.com.au/oiling.htm

Why don’t you contact Paul and get it straight from the horse’s mouth? You can’t go wrong doing that. :slight_smile:

Jef

On 2003-01-28 11:53, Jeferson wrote:
straight from the horse’s mouth? Jef

http://new.wavlist.com/tv/032/mred-hello.wav

:smiley:


“A Whistler Pre-Beginner”

[ This Message was edited by: TomB on 2003-01-28 12:07 ]

Gee, I didn’t think the Mr. Ed sound bite would kill the thread.

Sorry Byl

All the Best, Tom

There has been an oiling debate going on over at the woodenflute list for a week or so, with opinions from some respected flute makers and players posted. It seems there are almost as many opinions as there are players. Take a look over there, unless you’re afraid it will only add to the confusion.

No problem, Tom. I like Mr. Ed.

And Jef: Paul Busman sends a sheet with his whistles. It contains a ‘recipe’ for oil and mentions commercial bore oil…Paul’s suggestions - including oiling ‘times’ - are pretty general…I am looking for specifics…

Which commercially available oil is the best for whistles? Are they all the same?
Cheers.
Byll

Byll, I’ve used Selmer bore oil, and it seems to me that it is nothing more or less than ordinary mineral oil. I imagine the Yamaha is similar.

There is a product called Doctor Bore, which seems to be the preferred commercial bore oil. I don’t know what it’s made of, though.

For what it’s worth, I’m using linseed oil now.

Chris Abell’s recommendations for care of his whistles can be found toward the end of this page:

http://www.abellflute.com/whistle.html

Opinions do vary, but I can’t think of a more reliable source.

I don’t think there are hard and fast rules about oiling. I use standard music shop bore oil, or sweet almond oil, or linseed on a swab in the bore, and then lightly on a cloth on the outside. Another recipe has Vit E and almond oil…I don’t think this is a science.

I oil about once a month, but it may not be necessary that often. I do not oil the blade.

You realize that this thread is discouraging those lazy members (like me) from getting a wooden whistle.

Also, do you think this issue makes purchasing a used wooden whistle more precarious, because you don’t know how well the seller kept the whistle?

John Mac

Hi Byll: For what it’s worth, I just got my Busman whistle ~ couldn’t possibly say enough nice things about it! :slight_smile: and plan to treat it EXACTLY like my wooden flute ~
I bought a bottle of almond oil from the health food store. I squeezed into it three crushed capsules of vitamin e oil from Walmart.
I have a small piece of cotton t-shirt that I soaked in the oil ~ (keep it in a small rubbermaid container) After every play, I run a dry cloth through the bore, (with a thin wooden dowel I bought at Home Depot) and then when the bore is dry, I run the oil-soaked cloth through ONCE.
I know that most people oil their flutes or whistles once a month ~ that’s fine. I don’t think I’m hurting my new wooden whistle by oiling it more frequently than that.
I would HATE if anything bad happened to this whistle!!!
Probably once I am satisfied that it is played in and oiled enough (after a few months) I’ll oil it only every once a week or so, like I now do my flute.
Keep in mind, I’m not “soaking” it with oil, just a thin layer goes through.
And yes, I would worry about a previously owned wooden whistle… But not if I was the previous owner! :slight_smile:
Mary

Thanks be to all. Mary: Your detailed directions are excellent. I just oiled my Kingwood Busman for the first time. I used a Yamaha oil I had bought, and may try Paul’s concoction (basically yours, also) in the future.
While I am not interested in any more wooden whistles, I, too, wish to keep this one pristine. It is unique in so many ways.
Best.
Byll

My recipe, which I got from the Weasel himself, is a 5:1 mix of LIGHT olive oil and almond oil, with a “couple” of vitamin E capsules squeezed in as a preventative against the oil turning rancid.
No set time to oil these instruments-- Glenn recommends doing it when the wood “looks dry” through the fingerholes. In a new instrument, this may be weekly or so, but as time goes on it will not need it as often. One thing which I consider to be important: do your oiling BEFORE playing. You don’t want to be sealing condensed breath moisture into the wood-- you’re adding oil to prevent it from getting absorbed in the first place. You don’t need tons of oil-- a thin film will do the trick.

Thanks for the info, brewerpaul.
And now, a stupid question… where can I find one of these swabs everyone talks about using to do the oiling with? :confused:

~Larry

On 2003-01-29 07:15, madguy wrote:
where can I find one of these swabs everyone talks about using to do the oiling with? > :confused:

When I needed a swab for oiling panpipes, I went to the music store, and they sold me a picollo swab.

Thank you, Walden.

~Larry

Here’s a URL: http://www.mollenhauer.com/Care/Recorder-Care.htm

It provides excellent advice in simple terms on the whys and wherefores and what to use - just ignore the “R” word and replace with “Whistle”! (And ignore their promotion of their own product)

On 2003-01-29 07:30, Walden wrote:

On 2003-01-29 07:15, madguy wrote:
where can I find one of these swabs everyone talks about using to do the oiling with? > :confused:

When I needed a swab for oiling panpipes, I went to the music store, and they sold me a picollo swab.

Try finding one to oil your Toyos!

Toyos are about 5 feet long on the longest pipe. we use either a gun cleaning rod or a cleaning rod I made from 18" rod stock with an eye smithied on one end and a patch of flannel threaded through that. Make sure the swab material is fastened well or else you end up with an oily bit ‘o flannel 2’ down a tube!

Mark V