Boiler scale

I have a Kerry Songbird high D, tunable (hell, what a long name to type :laughing: ) which is pretty new (I got it in April or May). The problem is, there are small (really small) clogs of something that looks like boiler scale inside the windway already, and also a thin layer of the stuff on the nether part of the fipple block. It doesn’t bother me while I play, it doesn’t obstruct the wind (yet), but I want it off! Anyways, it’s weird that it’s there at all. I’ve had a Chieftan C for almost a year and a half and it never happened. Any ideas as to why? The only thing I can think of is that the Chieftain has a completely hirisontal windway, while on the Songbird it’s arched… :confused:

In any case, how do I get the stuff off without damaging the whistle? My parents tend to use lemmonic acid or vinegar to that purpose - in the household, but I’d be reluctant to try that on a whistle. It’s aluminium alloy, I’ve no idea if it can be damaged that way. Anyways, what to use?
Also, how can I prevent that sort of clogging, if possible? Thanks a lot :slight_smile:

Hi Lamora, welcome to Chiff! I think most whistlers just periodically wash out their whistles with warm soapy water-maybe even a good soak now and then to loosen whatever might be in the windway, especially. After washing, if you dip the fipple end in a clean glass of soapy dish detergent and water, then let it dry overnight, it will go a long way to help prevent clogging by moisture, at least.

Probably the best one to answer your question about the ā€œscaleā€ you have though, is of course, Phil Hardy. He’s in much better a position to have the answers, but if you just want to read a bit on cleaning whistles, I’ve dug these topics up doing a search on ā€˜cleaning aluminum’ here on Chiff for previous topics on the whistle forum. Lots of good and bad ideas to be found (how to and how not to clean aluminum) here:

https://forums.chiffandfipple.com/t/oxide-layer-on-aluminium-whistles/59809/1

https://forums.chiffandfipple.com/t/cleaning-aluminum/42208/1

https://forums.chiffandfipple.com/t/cleaning-the-windway/38285/1

https://forums.chiffandfipple.com/t/cleaning-out-the-gunk/35958/1

https://forums.chiffandfipple.com/t/dishwasher-good-for-cleaning-sterlizing-whistles/28910/1

https://forums.chiffandfipple.com/t/cleaning-tips/10916/1

Let us know what you find out from Phil about the problem.

Barry

Hey Barry, many thanks! Ok, it wouldn’t have occurred to me to write to Phil Hardy, really, but it does seem like the best solution obviously. I just did and will let you know what he says.

There’s really plenty of good advice in the trhreads you linked too (and a definite no-no for washing the whistles in the dishwasher :smiley: )

I’ve been cleaning mine mainly with just warm water, sometimes with soapy water, but never soaked them, so will definitely try that, but didn’t know about dipping the fipple you mentioned - that sounds very logical though. It might be that I just didn’t clean mine often enough? How often do you guys usually do it, btw?

Almost never, basically. The problem might actually be that you’re cleaning your whistle too much. Especially if you have a lot of calcium and mineral content in your water.

If you don’t play with a mouth full of food, a metal whistle shouldn’t require any real cleaning and maintenance. After playing, just shake and blow it out, swab the bore if you like, and let it air dry.

Do let us know what you learn from Phil!

:laughing: I think you might be on to something, MT! Now that I think about it, when I wash my whistles is not that often: If I can see it (dirt) or smell it, or when I buy or sell one-that’s when I wash mine. Other than an occasional wash or rinse before I treat the fipple with a soapy solution for anti-clogging purposes. I do blow out the excess moisture after I play them, and wipe them down usually too at that time, and let them dry in their breathable cases.

I use soapy water and a soft pipe cleaner to get the gunk out of new whistles.

I clean my harper about once every two months. I soak it in warm water and it’s astonishing the disgusting stuff that comes out, I reckon a whole species of bacteria could be evolving in my fipple.

Steve Harper also gave me a sort of little bristly bottle brush to poke in it. Someone else I met has an old credit card sliced into precisely the right shape to get the gunge out of the fipple. I haven’t tried that yet and settle for any old bit of card I can tear into shape.