Another name for "The Flying Column"?

Trying to find ABCs to augment my learning of this tune. It’s off of the Fred Finn and Peter Horan “Memories of Sligo” album. Anyone know of a different name this tune goes by? Thanks!

I don’t know the album but the Flying Column as it is in the Roche collection is the same tune as Tommy Potts’ version of Farewell to Ireland which in turn is in Ceol Rinnce na hEireann vol 3 as Austin Tierney’s.

Aah, I knew I could count on you Peter! Unfortunately Austin Teirney’s is a dead end on the ABC side. Farewell to Ireland is also the name given for the first tune in the set actually. It’s the same as the version on the Contentment is Wealth CD. Perhaps the publishers were confused on the tune names? Of course that wouldn’t explain why the Molloy/Keane version matches the Finn/Horan one. I’ll call it Farewell to Ireland #2!. I guess I’ll just have to do it the old fashioned way and listen 100 times!

Here’s a pretty plausible setting, from Henrik Norbeck’s site (found using the indexes in a few seconds):

X:602
T:Farewell to Ireland
R:reel
D:Noel Hill: The Irish Concertina
Z:id:hn-reel-602
M:C|
K:D
D2FD ADFD|Addc def2|D2FD ADFA|(3Bcd AF EDB,C|
D2FD ADFD|Addc defg|~a3f gfef|1 dBAF GFEF:|2 dBAF Egfe||
|:~d3B A2FA|~A2FA DAFA|dedB A2FA|(3Bcd AF GFEF|
d2Ad BGdB|A2FA ABde|1 fdde dcBA|GFED CEA,e:|2 fdde d2 (3ABc|dBAF GFEF||

I still think you’d be better listening though, and to several versions, since it’s one of those tunes that lends itself exceedingly well to variation, and you’ll hear a lot of things done by different players.

Ah g’wan, you had a typo :


http://jc.tzo.net/~jc/cgi/abc/FindTune?P=austin&F2=find%20(wide)&limit=1000

loads of them there. This is not how I would play it but it’s a start I suppose:



T: Austin Tierney’s
T: Farewell to Erin (B)
T: R'il Aibhistin U'i Thiarnaigh
S: B.Breathnach:“Ceol Rince na hEireann” III/111
L: 1/8
M: 4/4
R: reel
K: D
D2 FD AD (3FED|Addc defd|d3A BAFA|BdAF EB, B,2|
D2 FD AD (3FED|AddA Bcde|fd (3gfe dBcA|BdAG EDEF|
D2 DB AD (3FED|Addc de f2|D2 (3FED ADFA|BdAG E3F|
D2 (3FED ADFD|AddA Bcde|fd (3ddc dBAd|BdAF EDFA ||
d3B AF F2|DF (3AAF AFFA|d3B (3ABA FA|BdAF EDCA|
dcdA BcdB|BAFB ABde|fd (3gfe dBAF|GFED CE A2|
d3B AF F2|DFAF AFFA|d3B (3ABA FA|BdAF EDFE|
dcdc BcdA|BAFB A2 ag|faec dBAd|BdAF E3F ||

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That tune is called “The Maid in the Cherry Tree” in Trip to Sligo, but when I searched for its name a few months back, I couldn’t find anyone else who called it that.

I believe that set of tunes is from a Michael Coleman recording (though I don’t have that recording so I can verify) that was simply entitled “Farewell to Erin”. (Or maybe “Farewell to Ireland”?)

If you look at the Michael Coleman listing on irishtune.info, the Coleman set is 2.23. I’m pretty sure those must be the tunes on Music of Sligo.

It’s a good tune. Wish I had a proper name for it!

Coleman played the maid in the Cherry Tree in the same set so that caused the confusion.

the Kilfenora played a three reel set which is pretty standard including this tune and I am Waiting for you, can’t think of the third one though I can play it when the set comes up. Austin (or Gus, both from Augustus which is a name used a lot in North Clare) Tierney played with the old Kilfenora, hence the name.

Aah, Peter nailed it. Thanks Peter, that’s the one.

StevieJ, That one is also the same, when I checked Norbek’s index, the Farewell to Ireland I found first was the version that Finn/Horan and Molloy/Keane play, which is a different tune than the Noel hill/Austin Teirney’s. Probably a case of shared names, though the A parts do share some similarities, they’re definitely different tunes. Funny how that happens! Anyway, thanks to everyone. These are great tunes!

Wait, Peter, now you’ve got me confused.

The set I’m talking about on Music of Sligo is labelled “Farewell to Erin/The Flying Column”. In Trip to Sligo they are “Farewell to Erin” (only spelled differently, I believe) and “Maid in the Cherry Tree”.

I believe (based on the Irishtunes.info page) this is the same set as Michael Coleman’s “Farewell to Erin”. Do you know if that is correct?

Are you saying the first tune in the Michael Coleman set, which is called “Farewell to Erin” in both Sligo sources above, is actually “Maid in the Cherry Tree”? Or is it not the same set? Or what?

Now I’m confused.

I thought you were looking for the Flying Column, as played by Finn & Horan.

Now you seem to be saying you’re not because the one that Finn & Horan play is the other one that Norbeck has which is the same as the one played by Molloy and Keane and that’s not the one you’re looking for. However you say the one Peter and I posted above is what you’re looking for, which (I deduce from the above) is not the one Finn & Horan play.

Whatever, I don’t have the Finn & Horan album, but the one Peter and I posted above are definitely versions of the same tune, anyway. If you call it the Flying Column I think you can’t go wrong because afaik that is the only tune that goes by that name.

Here’s the other one that you may or may not have been talking about :slight_smile: This IS what Keane and Molloy play because I just listened to the track.

X:678
T:Farewell to Ireland
R:reel
D:Matt Molloy & Sean Keane: Contentment Is Wealth
Z:id:hn-reel-678
M:C|
K:D
D2 (3FED FAA2|f2df edB2|dBAF ~G3B|AF~F2 BE~E2|
D2 (3FED FAA2|f2df edB2|dBAF ~G3B|AGFD EFD2|
D2 (3FED FAA2|d2fd eB~B2|dBAF ~G3B|AF~F2 BE~E2|
D2 (3FED FAA2|f2df edB2|dBAF ~G3B|AGFD EFD2||
|:defg afdf|g2fg edBc|defg afdf|gefd ~e3f|
d2df ~a3f|g2fg edBc|dBAF ~G3B|1 AGFD EFD2:|2 AGFD EGFE||

OK I got the Coleman recording out.

The confusion for me starts here: I learnt the tune in 1983 or thereabouts after hearing Ronan Browne play it as ‘Tommy Potts’ version of Farewell to Ireland/Erin’. Around the same time I found the tuen in Rocje’s collection as ‘the Flying Column’. I used the latter name for a long time but as among pipers it was usually ‘Farewell to Erin’ I changed over at some point. In Clare it Austin Tierney’s most of the tiem flollowing the Kilfenora.

I just followed your link and assumed that Coleman’s first tune was the one we were talking about (Farewell to Erin), some I made my comment above.
Listening to Coleman I turns out he plays the tune we’re looking for here as the second one but as it turns out the original record only gave Farewell to Ireland as a title and harry Bradshaw’s Coleman discography has the second tune down as ‘untitled’. The Maid in the Cherry tree is a completely different tune. Who introdiced that name to this set, I don’t know.

We’ll blame it on Coleman and Tommy Potts.

Breathnach though gives the first one as Farewell t oIreland too (vol1, 139) but I never used the name as there are too many Farewell to Ireland/Erins as it is, instead naming it the Jolly Clamdiggers, which was after De Dannan if I remember well.

Ayy clearer? :smiley:

It’s a nice thought, but Trip to Sligo uses that name for “Sunny Banks”.

Really, the tune names in the Peter Horan section of that book are pretty doubtful. But they’re great tunes…

Well, now that we’re all completely confused, I managed to nail the tune down on both fiddle and flute. So now I guess it doesn’t matter! I can forget every name mentioned! :laughing: :laughing:

Just call it “Bully for Dale”. :wink:

(See the DS whistle thread in the whistle forum.)

Farewell to Pedantry!
Howabout a set with about 6 Farewells in there? You could write Farewells to the other provinces, too, to go with the Connaught tune. Then your Stacks of ______ hornpipes.
Or Paddy Fahy’s/Paddy Fahy’s/Paddy Fahy’s/Paddy Fahy’s/Paddy Fahy’s/Paddy Fahy’s/Paddy Fahy’s/Paddy Fahy’s/Paddy Fahy’s/Paddy Fahy’s.
Those are jigs, of course.

Thank God the names are slowly slipping out of my mind. Leaves more room for tunes…