An introduction and a question.

Thank you, Keith. I’m happy to join.

I’d like to introduce myself. I’ve been playing classical guitar on and off for quite a few years, now, but I’ve always had
an interest in woodwinds. Several years ago I was given a rather nice baroque alto recorder, but I’ve come to the rather sad realization that I don’t like it all that much. This weekend I bought a flute at an antiques show. It appears to be in excellent condition. Next time I go to Manhattan I’ll have the guys at the Flute Center take a look at it. Meanwhile I’d like to find out more about it, and it’s maker

It’s made of boxwood, approximately 23 1/2 inches long, in four sections, seven holes, the last being covered by a key.
the maker is:
A.Binyon, 12 Bells Building, Salisbury Sq., London. There’s a small griffin stamp.

I think that it is from the 19th century, but that’s just a guess. I’d appreciate any info on this maker, and possible date.
Thanks,
Fernando.

Hi Fernando,

The New Langwill Index lists Alfred Binyon as a flute and flageolet maker and at the 12 Bell’s Building address from 1841 to 1844. The length is right for a D flute but you would have to play it to find out what pitch it was made to be played in.

Thank you for the information. That’s much more precise than I had expected. As for the pitch, given my very limited skills, I get a rather sharp A, about +10 cents ,but that’s probably just me, since the cork is rather loose, and I probably moved it to the wrong position when I cleaned the flute. I’m rather surprised that I’m getting a fairly consistent tone.
Again, thanks,
Fernando.

Vinny Cronin, son of Paddy, I think played a Binyon flute.
Not sure if he still does.
He used to play in a group called the Gasmen.

I think someone also reported a boxwood Bb band flute by Binyon?
Cathy Wilde maybe?

Fernando - sounds like you found a nice, old flute there! If the cork in the headjoint is loose, you definitely should replace it. Wine corks work fine…and you are “required” :stuck_out_tongue: to drink that darn wine to free up the cork. I think it’s a win-win situation, but that may just be me.

However, older flutes are sometimes in a higher or lower pitch. Yours is pretty close to being in modern pitch…can you get there either by pulling out the headjoint a bit will get you in tune (unless the 10 cents sharp is with the headjoint pulled out a bit).

Another thing is that with a wooden flute you blow down more into the embouchure rather than across it like you do with a silver/Boehm flute. You should be able to pull the pitch down to modern concert A=440 if you are blowing more across rather than down into the hole. Many players roll the headjoint in towards the player a bit to facilitate the air going down rather than across.

Welcome to the forum!

Eric