About Fat-Related Posts and the "War on Fat"

I have spouted off at the mouth yet again, in another fat-related thread. Even though I have told myself again and again that I won’t.

But I always do.

The reason I almost always react to fat-related topics is that what is happening in America right now scares the piss out of me.

There is a new minority, a special new breed of second-class citizen. These folks are everywhere! Chances are you know one! Maybe you’ve got one in your family! (sshhh, don’t tell anybody!)

These are the new breed of folks that it is safe and socially acceptable to treat poorly “because they deserve it,” and because “it’s for their own good.”

These are the “fat,” the “overweight,” those unlucky souls who don’t look like they just came from a Nazi work camp and who actually have a little meat on their bones. They are diagnosed as being “sick,” (and everybody knows what kind of sickness they really have, wink wink), and the basis of this diagnosis is numbers. Not even current numbers, because current numbers would mean a lot fewer people would be diagnosed as overweight–no, these numbers were derived in the 50’s by insurance companies, studying a generation which time proved to be one of the unhealthiest America has ever spawned.

Every generation needs a safe target, some group to look down upon and feel smugly superior to.

“But I don’t do that!!!” I can hear the collective protest. “Why, some of my best friends are fat!”

No one is helped by this “war on fat”…or, perhaps, someone is.

Billions of dollars are spent each year on diets (mostly ineffective), medications (often toxic), and even body-altering surgeries (often detrimental to long-term health, and occasionally even immediately lethal). Americans are flooded by the largest and most subvasive propaganda campaign ever waged: you can’t turn on the television, pick up a magazine, read a newspaper, take in a novel, watch a movie, or even surf the Internet without being continually bombarded by the Message. “Fat is bad! Fat is everywhere! Fat is ugly! Fat people are stupid! Fat people could change if they would just get off their lazy round overweight asses!”

And, my God, the money just rolls in.

We’re talking more money than the entire I.T. industry. Hell, we might even be talking more money than the entire defense industry.

The war on fat burns on.

And, like any war, there are the casualties, and the collateral damage.

Somewhere in America right this second, there is a pitifully thin young creature, staring despondently into a mirror, seeing only the demon Fat. This unhappy child no longer eats, or perhaps purges after eating. She (or sometimes he) isn’t overweight by any definition, but that’s not the message that society keeps sending, is it?

Some of those poor kids die.

Collateral damage.

Society apparently doesn’t count the cost too high, because the ads keep airing, the surgeries keep getting scheduled, and the money just keeps pouring in.

How to stop it? Can it be stopped?

And the question that really scares me, way down deep where it counts: does anyone really even care?

Folks, this just has to stop. It’s wrong in every way anything can be.

But how to make it stop?

I’ve tried, and folks like me have tried, and we aren’t enough to stop it. And, besides, nobody really listens to what we have to say.

We’re fat, you see.

But maybe, just maybe, you can help.

I hope so.

While there is still time.

–James

Amen!

James - I hear and care…

I was always the “skinny” kid. I weighed 85 lbs (at 5’4") in high school, I was voted “skinniest” in my senior year book. However, I’m following in my families footsteps - when I hit middle age, the old super high metabolism didn’t just slow down, it stopped. I also have a HUGE predestiny to diabetes, so I must try and keep the weight down, but I don’t eat a lot of sweets, don’t drink pop, etc. - eat fairly healthy - and it still creeps on. Both of my kids are the same way, Nate didn’t weigh ENOUGH to wrestle in high school, and he had to put on weight between the time he signed up for the Navy and went to Basic (he just made the low weight by 1 pound).
My son’s fiance has had a run in with anorexia - I know what devisation that can have on someone. I do my best to NOT pressure her to eat, but just offer things I know she likes.

I think “fat” is the next “smoking”. If someone is happy with themself, and they are somewhat healthy (I mean, common - who among us as we get older REALLY is perfectly healthy???) I think they should be whatever they are and the hell with what anyone else thinks.
Now - if someone really DOES want to loose weight, or because of their weight they are having major health problems, I can understand and give sympathy to them.

But don’t force everyone to fit into some preconceived “ideal”. ALL of my relatives were short - my dad was 5’5", my mom is 5’ - and all four of my grandparents were under 5’. My kids outgrew their grandmother by the time they were 12. My mom drove with a “cushion” for years, and once had co-workers take up a collection when she mentioned she was looking for a new car so she could get bucket seats in it. The world isn’t set up for short people!

I hear you and understand!!!

I’m fat. I don’t really mind it, most days.

Y’know, the pendulum swings both ways. It’s not healthy to be obese, but it’s not healthy to be severely underweight. Some people just have trouble controlling their weight; it doesn’t make them better or worse, nor does it make those of us fortunate enough to be within the “normal” range any better.

I had a friend before I met my wife. This woman was bright, funny, and energetic. When she was in town, I told my wife, “You’ll love this woman, she is SO cool!” She had lost over half her body weight since I’d originally known her, and she had an entirely different personality. My wife, not having known her before, asked what i was thinking saying that they’d like each other. Fast forward a couple of years, when she’d given up the obsessive dieting and training. She was herself again, and realized that she was just much happier and more energetic letting herself be fat. She’s my daughter’s godmother and my wife is her son’s godmother.

Our friend might be reducing her life expectancy by staying fat, but she’s increasing her quality of life so much. I think she’d rather live to 65 or so as she is than live 20 more years being miserable. Heck, there are health risks associated with depression and obsessive behavior, which was necessary for her to control her weight.

Oh, and BTW, people with beerguts are significantly more likely to survive automobile accidents than those without.

I’m fat, too, even though I’m a Diet Pepsi and I drink only vegetarian.

I know you’re morbidly obese, James. I never intended for my “Pop makes you fat” thread to insult you–I’m sorry if it came across that way. I had a friend in junior high who was around 1,000 pounds. I know that quite often genetics and other conditions contribute to being fat, overweight, or obese. I am chronically ill and unable to walk up stairs some days, much less excersize, so I understand that angle.

I didn’t mean to imply with my thread that if you drink pop you’ll get fat at the snap of a finger or that all fat people gorge themselves on pop 24 hours a day. I’m sorry if it seemed that way. It was just a news story I thought people’d be interested in.

A quick “fat” story that I coincidentally was thinking about today:

My sister is morbidly obese and has been very overweight since she was a child (she’s in her mid-40’s now). She dated very little in high school but did meet a decent guy when she was 29 who asked her to marry him. My brothers could never see her for the fat. They basically ignored her. When we got together after my sister and her fiance had gotten engaged, one of my brothers said to me privately, “Why do you think he’s marrying her? It can’t be for money.”

I was absolutely dumbfounded that her own brother had never even tried to get to know her, to know that she was funny, warm, friendly, and loving. All he could see was the fat. That’s all most people can still see. When she’s mentioned (she lives in another state), that’s all they talk about. And it makes me sick.

I’ve seen nearly all sides of weight issues - my daughter had (and still struggles with) a serious eating disorder. I’ve struggled with my weight my entire adult life. I’m not someone who is thin and judges overweight people. But I will say that I don’t think obesity should simply be accepted and excused. There are countless reasons people are overweight and the ones I know well are not happy about being obese. I no longer judge people for being overweight - I wonder what they struggle with in their lives. IMO, each person should try to be the healthiest they can be, which includes understanding that obesity is not healthy and doing whatever they can to make the positive changes in their lives (I think depression plays a much greater role in obesity than is ever talked about and I absolutely know it’s not just a matter of being a “pig”) that will enable them to live the longest, healthiest, happiest life they possibly can.

Susan

Yeah, I finally took my brother-in-law aside, after several years
of prevaricating, and told him that he is setting up for a
heart attack. He’s overweight, he works too hard, he doesn’t
get enough exercise, and he’s 40. He has two boys, 4 and 6.
I told him about my overweight dad dying of a coronary
when I was 7 and he was 42.

I guess we never get it right. It’s always extremes.
I sure appreciate people disliking this one, but,
well, at least there’s a point to it.

Humbly submitted: you’d have a coronary too if you had to be constantly judged by everyone based on such an insignificant physical trait.

Bingo! Excellent point.

And/or vice versa.

Another bingo for another excellent point!

There is a new minority, a special new breed of second-class citizen. These folks are everywhere! Chances are you know one! Maybe you’ve got one in your family! (sshhh, don’t tell anybody!)

These are the new breed of folks that it is safe and socially acceptable to treat poorly “because they deserve it,” and because “it’s for their own good.”

These are the “fat,” the “overweight,” those unlucky souls who don’t look like they just came from a Nazi work camp and who actually have a little meat on their bones. They are diagnosed as being “sick,” (and everybody knows what kind of sickness they > really > have, wink wink), and the basis of this diagnosis is numbers. Not even current numbers, because current numbers would mean a lot fewer people would be diagnosed as overweight–no, these numbers were derived in the 50’s by insurance companies, studying a generation which time proved to be one of the unhealthiest America has ever spawned.

Every generation needs a safe target, some group to look down upon and feel smugly superior to.

“But I don’t do that!!!” I can hear the collective protest. “Why, some of my best friends are fat!”

No one is helped by this “war on fat”…or, perhaps, someone is.

Billions of dollars are spent each year on diets (mostly ineffective), medications (often toxic), and even body-altering surgeries (often detrimental to long-term health, and occasionally even immediately lethal). Americans are flooded by the largest and most subvasive propaganda campaign ever waged: you can’t turn on the television, pick up a magazine, read a newspaper, take in a novel, watch a movie, or even surf the Internet without being continually bombarded by the Message. “Fat is bad! Fat is everywhere! Fat is ugly! Fat people are stupid! Fat people could change if they would just get off their lazy round overweight asses!”

…and we smell bad too. believe me i’ve heard them all.

What’s really saddening is to watch one of those shows where some skinny little blond puts on a fat-suit and goes walking around town, complete with hidden camera. They just can’t believe how differently people treat them-- pointing and staring, openly laughing, and refusing to give directions or help in any way. :cry:

Good rant James. Not much I can add. I’m sick of the mentality that you have to have “ripped abs” if you’re a male and look like a pencil if you’re a female.

I have an equal aversion to the cult of youth that permeates every aspect of society. Even when I was a youth I thought it was bad.

My latest favorite my-gosh-I’m-so-fat ad: The one where the woman who was on some reality show spouts that she went from a size 10 to a size 4 in however-long-it-was. Are you kidding me?!? Your clothing size must now be in single digits? A size 10, for any height, is a perfectly healthy size and may be too thin for many. To suggest that a size 10 woman “needed” to lose weight is scary to me.

Susan

I think you’re all on the money.
bingo x3.

Ok, I gotta do this…

I had a few before I got married too…I feel your pain! :stuck_out_tongue:

Well, since there are several here participating in the Fatasses Annonymous meeting…

My name is Tyler, and I’m fat. :slight_smile:

And happy. :slight_smile:



I used to be in really good form, but oh well. :slight_smile:

I disagree. So does the
American Heart Association and the American College of
Cardiologists. I’m not for judging anybody on physical traits,
of course, and I certainly wasn’t judging my brother-in-law.
Which is why I didn’t talk to him about this for years. He thanked me,
by the way, and has since taken meaures to reduce
his weight and to work less hard.

I don’t think one does anyone any favors by denying this:
the risk of heart attack for men in early middle age from
being overweight is real, and vastly outstrips whatever risk
(so far undocumented, to my knowledge) of heart attack
from being judged by everyone on the basis of such an insignficant
physical trait. The latter may make one miserable, but, to
my knowledge, there is no correlation with heart disease.

You are what you are.

It’s when you finally figure that out that you’re an adult.


Some of us never get there, more’s the pity.