A Warning about E-Bay

Recently on E-Bay there was an offer to sell a book on “How To Make Uilleann Pipes”, by (allegedly) someone going by the name Loyell Donnegan.

It has been mentioned on the UP List that these plans are, in effect, lifted from the work previously undertaken by Wilbert Garvin.

If you see such plans being advertised, please be aware that they may well be stolen.

I hereby provide a message directly from Wilbert Garvin that appeared on the UP List:

…
Dear List server
Although not at present a subscriber to the list I would appreciate it if you
would post to subscribers information concerning a serious situation where Loyel
Donnegan is attempting to, once again, auction a set of plans for a set of pipes
on ebay which are in clear breach of copyright law - they are copied straight
from my book - The Irish Bagpipes - their construction and maintenance.
I would like to thank those good piping friends who keep me informed of such
violations and would encourage all members on the list to pass the word around.
This worked last time as the item was quickly withdrawn.
A new hardback presentation and updated edition of the book is now available
-contact me at
<mailto:wilbert@leaghland.fsnet.co.uk>wilbert@leaghland.fsnet.co.uk
I know that you all do your best - use emails and web as it can be used for
good.
All the best
Wilbert

Over the past few days I have spoken with Wilbert about this, he is indeed appalled by this. Whatrever the way the people sellign this stuff are crooks and should be steered clear of.

This is the eBay auction in question:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=624&item=931491583

We talked about this before:
http://chiffboard.mati.ca/viewtopic.php?topic=6048&forum=6
and the link to the original eBay is still online:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=905391960

Who is Loyel Donnagan? On his website he calls himself a master pipemaker and has two sets for sale. Has anyone heard of him? Has anyone tried his pipes?

Jeff

The pictures (of the two sets) on the website were the same ones appearing on previous eBay auctions. I don’t recall either set selling via eBay.

Wilbert thinks he is associated with William Smith, on the UP mailing list it was said the pipes the two are selling look identical.

eBay has a policy against selling items which are known to infringe on copyrights. If you go to the following link
http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/fpp.html
it will give you a list of steps to take action against a seller listing such items.

Best of luck.
Gary

Just to be crystal clear on this, Tony has indeed posted the correct link to the E-bay auction in question, but the picture associated at that link may be leading people to believe that the offer was for pipes for sale, and this is not the case.

The link at E-bay that Tony provided is for a BOOK on how to make pipes, and the book being offered is a rip-off of Wilbert Garvin’s book on making Uilleann pipes, thereby making the “book by Loyell Donnegan” a copyright infringement, as it has become clear that Mr. Garvin’s work has been copied without his permission.

So to be clear, the offer is for a book, not a set (or sets) of pipes.

Copyright infringement is theft, plain and simple.

Brian, agreed the auction was for copies of a BOOK and not pipes… our research to the vendor showed other items for sale.