a few thoughts on chocolate

[Lambchop]

@aderyn_du

John, that is so cool that you know that-- I am thoroughly impressed. I had never known there was a term and an explanation for that occurrence. You rock!

In warm climes, like here, little bug eggs hatch in the nuts in chocolate and the larvae kind of start eating it from the inside out. It’s kind of hard to tell this has happened until you’ve bitten into it. Usually, you only think it’s bloom, but nooooo . . . .


Eagerly awaits praise and accolades . . .

[aderyn_du]

@Peggy

@aderyn_du

John, that is so cool that you know that-- I am thoroughly impressed. I had never known there was a term and an explanation for that occurrence. You rock!

In warm climes, like here, little bug eggs hatch in the nuts in chocolate and the larvae kind of start eating it from the inside out. It’s kind of hard to tell this has happened until you’ve bitten into it. Usually, you only think it’s bloom, but nooooo . . . .


Eagerly awaits praise and accolades . . .

BLECCH! Peggy, dear, I’m not sure whether to give you accolades for knowing such a thing, or to cry… chocolate with nuts is one of my favorite things. Now every chocolate bar is suspect for wee little buggies devouring it from the inside out.

[Lambchop]

@aderyn_du

BLECCH! Peggy, dear, I’m not sure whether to give you accolades for knowing such a thing, or to cry… chocolate with nuts is one of my favorite things. Now every chocolate bar is suspect for wee little buggies devouring it from the inside out.

If you freeze it for a few weeks, the eggs die.

[izzarina]

@Peggy

Eagerly awaits praise and accolades . . .

YAY PEGGY!! I really am not sure why I praised you, except maybe because I din’t hurl after reading that

[aderyn_du]

@Peggy

@aderyn_du

BLECCH! Peggy, dear, I’m not sure whether to give you accolades for knowing such a thing, or to cry… chocolate with nuts is one of my favorite things. Now every chocolate bar is suspect for wee little buggies devouring it from the inside out.

If you freeze it for a few weeks, the eggs die.

GAG-O-RAMA!!!

[izzarina]

@aderyn_du

@Peggy

@aderyn_du

BLECCH! Peggy, dear, I’m not sure whether to give you accolades for knowing such a thing, or to cry… chocolate with nuts is one of my favorite things. Now every chocolate bar is suspect for wee little buggies devouring it from the inside out.

If you freeze it for a few weeks, the eggs die.

GAG-O-RAMA!!!

I agree! eeeewwwwwwwwww!!! I may have to take that praise back now, Peggy

[emmline]

One time, in college, my roommate had a bag of chestnuts she was getting all ready to eat. So, she poured them out, only to discover–chestnuts and several white wiggly grub things. She stared at this unappetizing surprise for a few moments, unable to move, until I grabbed the whole platter and disposed of it. Yes, I know what can happen in nuts.

[aderyn_du]

::cowering in the corner::

Stop! Stop the madness!! Ad can’t take much more. Bugs in nuts…it’s tragic.

[izzarina]

@aderyn_du

::cowering in the corner::

Stop! Stop the madness!! Ad can’t take much more. Bugs in nuts…it’s tragic.

It’s ok ad…we’ll go buy some new shoes, ok? Everything will be fine

[aderyn_du]

@izzarina

@aderyn_du

::cowering in the corner::

Stop! Stop the madness!! Ad can’t take much more. Bugs in nuts…it’s tragic.

It’s ok ad…we’ll go buy some new shoes, ok? Everything will be fine

Ahhh… shoes. I got a new pair a couple days ago. Life is good.

[FJohnSharp]

@aderyn_du

@FJohnSharp

My wife got me some Godiva for Valentine’s Dy. It was from a department store, and it was covered in bloom (a chalky white coating caused by the changing of the fat crystals in the cocoa butter from one form to another form (alpha to beta I think). It comes from abuse, like letting it get too warm then cool again.

John, that is so cool that you know that-- I am thoroughly impressed. I had never known there was a term and an explanation for that occurrence. You rock!

Aww, shucks, m’am. Nothing that a Master’s in Food Science won’t get ya.

[ChrisA]

@FJohnSharp

@aderyn_du

@FJohnSharp

My wife got me some Godiva for Valentine’s Dy. It was from a department store, and it was covered in bloom (a chalky white coating caused by the changing of the fat crystals in the cocoa butter from one form to another form (alpha to beta I think). It comes from abuse, like letting it get too warm then cool again.

John, that is so cool that you know that-- I am thoroughly impressed. I had never known there was a term and an explanation for that occurrence. You rock!

Aww, shucks, m’am. Nothing that a Master’s in Food Science won’t get ya.

You know what would be really, y’know, -really- impressive is if you could explain how
to temper chocolate. That’s a really difficult thing. -So- difficult that every cookbook
out there claims it’s too advanced a topic to cover. So, someone that can explain that
in simple, clear steps, would -obviously- be a genius…

(Transparent fisihng for information? Huh? I don’t know what you’re talking about… )

–Chris

[FJohnSharp]

We food scientists learn about the molecular composition of foods, the physical and thermodynamic characteristics of foods, the organoleptic characteristics of foods, and the economic aspects of the food industry. Alas, we do not learn how to temper chocolate.

Yeah, yeah, my dad thought my education was worthless too, if I couldn’t tell him how long to hard boil an egg.

[happyturkeyman]

@www.godiva.com

Tempering Instructions
Using a microwave oven in combination with the time-honored professional method of tempering chocolate on a smooth, hard work surface (preferably marble) is quickly done in 10 to 30 minutes, depending on the amount of chocolate being tempered. Although some manufacturers suggest you melt chocolate with the microwave oven set on HIGH (100 percent) power, it is a good idea to reduce this to MEDIUM (50 percent) power for even melting and to avoid overheating. Because milk and white chocolates contain milk proteins, they need to be removed from the microwave and stirred sooner than dark chocolate. If overheated, milk and white chocolates can become grainy.

Temper chocolate in a clean, dry microwave-safe glass bowl. Use a dry, rubber spatula to stir the melted chocolate. The slightest amount of moisture will cause the chocolate to seize.

Use an accurate easy-to-read thermometer when tempering or making hand-made chocolates. We recommend a digital pocket thermometer or an instant read dial thermometer with l-degree increments. Do not use a candy (deep fat frying) thermometer because the temperature gauge does not register low enough.

For an accurate temperature reading, the thermometer must be immersed in at least 2 inches of melted chocolate. If the chocolate is not deep enough, insert the stem of the thermometer at an angle. Do not let the tip of the thermometer touch the bottom or sides of the bowl because this can give a false reading. Always stir the chocolate thoroughly for at least 1 minute before reading the thermometer. The temperature of the chocolate will continue to rise even after it has been removed from the microwave.

Once the chocolate has been tempered, set the bowl on a heating pad (such as the type used for backaches). First wrap the heating pad with plastic to protect it from dripping chocolate. This is a simple and nearly foolproof way to maintain the temperature of the tempered chocolate. As you work, stir the chocolate frequently and turn the control dial on and off to control the temperature of the chocolate. You must be diligent in this; it is very easy for the tempered chocolate to overheat and to go out of temper, even when warmed gently by a heating pad.

Chop the chocolate into 1/4-inch chunks. Put half of the chocolate in a 1 1/2 quart microwave-safe bowl. (Use a 1 quart bowl when tempering 8-ounces of chocolate or less. When tempering more than 2 pounds of chocolate, use a larger bowl.) Microwave uncovered on MEDIUM (50 percent) power for 1 1/2 to 6 minutes, stirring every 1 1/2 minutes, until the chocolate is completely melted and smooth. Stir in the remaining chocolate chunks.


Microwave uncovered on MEDIUM (50 percent) power for 1 1/2 to 5 minutes, stirring every 60 seconds, until the chocolate is almost completely melted. Gently stir the chocolate and when it is completely melted, check the temperature. It should read between 110 and 120 degrees F (or the temperature recommended by the manufacturer.) If necessary, put the chocolate back in the microwave set on low (10 percent) power for 5 to 10 second intervals, until it reaches the correct temperature. (Stir the chocolate for at least 1 minute before checking the temperature.)


Transfer the melted chocolate to another 1 1/2-quart (or a smaller or larger bowl depending on the amount of chocolate being tempered.) This will bring the temperature of the chocolate down to approximately 100 degrees F.


Wrap a heating pad (normally used for backaches) in plastic to protect it from chocolate stains. Set the control dial to the lowest setting.


Pour one-third of the melted chocolate onto a clean, dry work surface (such as marble or Formica). Keep the remaining chocolate in the bowl on the heating pad.


Using an offset metal cake spatula, spread the chocolate evenly across the work surface into a rectangle. Using a pastry scraper, bring the chocolate together, and as you do so, scrape the chocolate off the spatula. Continue this spreading and scraping process until the chocolate cools to 80 to 82 degrees F for milk and white chocolates and 82 to 84 degrees F for dark chocolate, loses its shine and forms a thick paste with a dull matte finish. Work quickly so that the chocolate does not lump. This process can take anywhere from 2 to 10 minutes, depending on the amount of chocolate, the type and brand of chocolate as well as the temperature of the kitchen. The chocolate is now seeded. The professional term for this is “mush.”


Add the mush to the bowl of 100 degrees F chocolate and using a clean, dry rubber spatula, stir the chocolate gently, until smooth. Be careful not to create air bubbles as you stir the chocolate.


Check the temperature of the chocolate. It should register between 86 and 91 degrees F depending on the type and brand of chocolate. (In general, dark chocolate should register between 86 to 90 degrees F and milk and white chocolates should register between 86 to 89 degrees F.) If necessary, heat the bowl of chocolate in the microwave on LOW (10 percent) power for 5 to 10 second intervals, to raise the temperature the required number of degrees. (Stir the chocolate for at least 1 minute before checking the temperature. Be very careful not to overheat the chocolate.) The chocolate is now ready to work with. As you work, regularly stir the chocolate and check its temperature. Adjust the temperature and fluidity of the chocolate by turning the heating pad on and off. If for some reason the chocolate becomes too cold, simply reheat it in the microwave oven set on LOW (10 percent) power for 5 to 10 second intervals. (Stir the chocolate for at least 1 minute before rechecking the temperature.) Never let its temperature exceed 92 degrees F, or the stable cocoa butter crystals will start to melt and the temper will be lost.

edit: Oh yeah, and frozen Hershey bars (milk) are the best.

[Flyingcursor]

Not only have I learned how to temper chocolate, and the term for chocolate that’s been abused, I also learned I’m not the only one who’s bitten into a candy bar only to find my hand crawling with little critters.
Twice. I would think that cooking the nuts during production would kill the eggywegs.

[aderyn_du]

@Flyingcursor

Not only have I learned how to temper chocolate, and the term for chocolate that’s been abused, I also learned I’m not the only one who’s bitten into a candy bar only to find my hand crawling with little critters.
Twice. I would think that cooking the nuts during production would kill the eggywegs.

::ad runs screaming away, vowing to never return to the chocolate thread::






(until a new post comes in, anyway)

[GaryKelly]

See, this is why the chocolate on our side of the pond is so much to be preferred:

“According to the US Food and Drug Administration’s food defect action level, a certain level of insect parts per gram is allowed in chocolate.
“Chocolate comes from the cocoa plant, and there is no way to produce and harvest crops without natural defects — insects,” A’Psis said. When plants are grounded to make chocolate, so are any leftover bugs still on the plant.
According to A’Psis, there are 22 insect parts in every Hershey’s Kiss.
“Imagine how many are in a Hershey bar,” she added. ••”

http://www.northeasttimes.com/2003/0219/kiss.html

I do not covet your Hershey bars. Pah! I say to them.

[izzarina]

@GaryKelly

“According to the US Food and Drug Administration’s food defect action level, a certain level of insect parts per gram is allowed in chocolate.
“Chocolate comes from the cocoa plant, and there is no way to produce and harvest crops without natural defects — insects,” A’Psis said. When plants are grounded to make chocolate, so are any leftover bugs still on the plant.
According to A’Psis, there are 22 insect parts in every Hershey’s Kiss.
“Imagine how many are in a Hershey bar,” she added. ••”

This entire thread is absolutely cruel and evil. I’ll never be able to eat chocolate again!!! See what you all have done??? That’s just sheer evil. And sad…what will I do without my chocolate? I just can’t even think now…
::going off to join ad in the corner to have a good cry::

[GaryKelly]

Ooh! More fascinating chocolate trivia:

http://www.corsinet.com/trivia/vvv-triv.html

Amar, stop it. 22 lbs of chocolate in a year will do nothing for your figure.

[emmline]

@GaryKelly

I do not covet your Hershey bars. Pah! I say to them.

And I’m certain all the little wiggly critters say “pah” right back to Gary!
(actually, what they say is: “Pah Gary! And pah to your precious too!”)