A distress... Fingering

Well after a while on the Sweetheart, I started to notice a distressing issue with my fingering of the 2nd D (d).

I’m starting to think it’s possible that I’ve been playing the whistle for the last 5 years all wrong, and can’t seem to change the habbit. Same goes for the flute which I’m playing for a few months now.

As known, d can be played covering all of the 6 holes or just 5 holes…

I play it covering all of the holes… easier no?
well the flute made me realize that covering only 5 holes will deffinately 100% give me a d, while covering all six holes gives me a tiny glimps of the D before going up to d. This is insane! ;/ going from A to d or from G to d introduces that kind of unclean transition which disturbs me to the levels of getting frustrated.

So what do I naturally do? Started trying to play the d using 5 holes. And GOD is that hard or what? going from d to B this way is simply a scandal :slight_smile: I always hear a 3rd note between the two. Well yea sometimes I manage to get it right, but only in slow motion and only once in a while.
Makes me feel like a handicap or something :confused: Plus it makes me re-learn all the tunes I know like the palm of my hand.

Anyone has some input on this issue? Maybe I should just continue play the way I’m used to and that’s it ;/ A distress.

Hope for a better day for everyone,
Philip

it is definitely not a scandal. i play all my d’s like that. no matter what. some people like the six finger d when they want to honk it, but i can honk it better on 5 finger.

also, if your six finger d (as you call it) does not work right away, then your embouchure needs a lot of work. you should be able to hit low D, middle d, then high a all on the same fingering, just by changing embouchure, and leaving the blowing pressure the same.

Thanks daiv for the reply…

Of course it might be the embouchure, which I’m working everyday on. Thing is I tried this thing on my longtime played whistle, and noticed that covering all the 6 holes might sometimes give me that screaming aweful tone that is just between D going up to d… That artifact which we all try to avoid, which can never happen if I cover only 5 holes. Of course it depends on the whistle I use too, which is a Harper - and although it has a great tone, it is quite hard on the 2nd octave - for all notes.

Still looking for my 6holed d savior :slight_smile:

you’ll get used to it. on concertina, i have two fingerings for D in the first octave, two for the second, and i’m not even sure if its one or two for the third. for A… well, let me tell you! i have two A’s in the low octave, 3 A’s in the middle octave, and 3 in the high (and i’m not even sure if there is one in the highest). it was overwhelming at first, but now i just reach for whichever one i want.

on the flute, i play c one of 5 different ways, depending on the flute i am playing. either like on a whistle, oxx-ooo, with my first finger down on a silver flute, with my first finger down and a pointer key on a keyed flute, oxo-xxx on my antique, or the new one i am working on for my new flute, oxx-xox.

now, if only i could play as well as i could switch fingering… :laughing:

Trip, first up, don’t trip out!! :smiley:
Changing your fingering for D will seem impossible at first, but you will get there. One thing though, do not lose the 6 fingered D, it is still a very useful way to play D, especially middle D when in quick transition.
I have no preference between 5 on or 6 on, I play whatever comes along at the time.
If you are playing slurred passages using equal breath pressure and you move from middle D to first octave B, then you will hear a quick C# in there no matter how crisp your fingering is.
Think about it, you play a middle D: oxxxxx, then b: xooooo, so obviuosly moving between those two notes leaves a split second where your fingers will be in transition giving you: oooooo.
It is only natural you will hear a ‘third note’ in there.
It is not a problem, only practice on your ‘new’ D will equal out the problem you see/hear with it.