Turlach Boylan:  The Chiff & Fipple Interview

Many of you who are veterans of Chiff & Fipple will recall my enthusiasm for Turlach Boylan’s previous CD, The Tidy Cottage.  I am happy to report that flutist Turlach’s new CD, Shame the Devil, which features several tunes on whistle, is now out and available.  It is a wonderful CD and a completely worthy successor to The Tidy Cottage.  And, now, bowing to the pressure of the ever-growing juggernaut which is the Chiff & Fipple community, Turlach plays whistle on this new CD !

Turlach’s recordings never suffer from the kind of overproduction which plagues many Celtic and Celtic-oriented CDs.   I have a particular fondness for listening to Turlach play unaccompanied or with relatively little backing.  I marvel at his ability to maintain absolute fidelity to the dance rhythm.  Don’t get me wrong—the backing band on this CD consists of some amazingly talented and tasteful players.  He is joined on this CD by some of the finest acoustic musicians in Houston, including EJ Jones and Jennifer Hamel of Clandestine, Therese Honey of Wyndnwyre and Randy Wothke of The Scottish Rogues.

From Turlach's bio:  One friend has described Turlach Boylan as "fierce", while others think him enigmatic, and elsewhere he is seen as a curmudgeon.  It boils down to a couple of things:  This intense Irishman insists on good music and seldom wastes a lot of time with words. 

Given that, I was very pleased to be able to sit down with Turlach at a small restaurant in Florence recently where he wasted some time with words.

Dale Wisely:  Where were you born and where did you grow up?

Turlach Boylan:  I was born in Ballymoney, County Antrim, the nearest town with a maternity hospital. I grew up on a farm in Glenullin, an area just outside Garvagh in County Derry.

You have said that your father decided that you and your six siblings would play Irish music.  So, I gather he was a musician.  Just how musical was your family?

My father never played music. He had an accident in his teens and lost joints on a couple of fingers. My mother played a little on the piano. As you mention, all of my siblings play. Caitriona plays the banjo, Maeve plays piano-accordion and piano, Sheila plays fiddle and piano, Clodagh plays fiddle, concertina and piano, Ruairi plays flute and whistle and Donal plays a little on the button accordion. For a while they all played together in a ceili band called Gleann an Iolair (a more Irish version of Glenullin) and made a CD called The Derry Boat, available on big plain records. Sheila and Clodagh are still very active musicians. Sheila toured Germany last year playing for one of the dance shows and Clodagh is a member of a Dublin group Providence which you will be hearing a lot about.

At what point did you turn to the flute?

I started playing the flute when I was sixteen after several years with piano and trumpet lessons. That was my first serious attempt at Irish music.

Tell us about your teacher, John Kennedy of County Antrim....

John is a larger-than-life character from a place called Cullybackey. He learned to play music on the fife marching with the Orange bands and is also a great singer. John doesn't place a lot of emphasis on technique but instead on rhythm and 'lift' which he would demonstrate by lilting along and raising his shoulders up and down. He taught a lot of musicians around North Antrim including several members of the group Deanta. John has a CD of his singing with a few fife tunes played on whistle. The info is:

John Kennedy - "The girls along the road"
Veteran Tapes VT137CD
44 Old Street, Haughley
Stowmarket, Suffolk IP14 3NX
tel/fax +44 1449 673695

Now, along the way you've had other education and careers outside of music.....

I have an engineering degree which brought me to Houston to design drill bits for oilwells. I was supposed to go back to work in Belfast but that position fell through.  After six years, I left that job and had a freelance programming business for several years. But I'm trying to work fulltime at music now.

Your debut solo CD, The Tidy Cottage, got very nice notices.  However, it seems to me that in these days when so many of the "Celtic" albums sold in record stores stray considerably from the tradition, it must be tempting to go that route to sell more CDs.

Everyone is subject to the influences of the times they live in and those can't help but affect the music that is played. On The Tidy Cottage there are some American tunes, for example, and music has always been passed around across borders. But I think that the vast majority of 'fusion' music fails dismally, probably because it represents a rejection of the Irish music it is based on. There are a few shining exceptions like Sharon Shannon and Lunasa but it takes tremendous virtuosity to pull it off. Whenever I am tempted, I think about Martin Hayes, who has been incredibly successful playing the music that he loves and hasn't forgotten where he came from, even when he adds references from other music into his tunes. I'm just trying to make music that I like, and hope that it shows in the end result.

On your new CD, you play some other instruments:  banjo, mandola and, hooray!... tinwhistle.  When did you first pick up a tinwhistle?  Do you recall what kind it was?  What whistles have you played on your recordings and in performance more recently?

I probably first played a whistle in my early teens, and knew a couple of tunes, but nothing serious until I started playing the flute. It would have been a Generation D, probably nickel with a blue top but maybe brass with a red top. There wasn't much else around. On Shame The Devil I play an older Generation in C on one track, a borrowed Riordan D on one track, and a borrowed low G Schultz PVC whistle. I've since been sponsored with one of those Schultz whistles by a nameless global internet tinwhistle conglomerate and recorded another unreleased track with it. At the same time I recorded a track using a Waltons Mellow D.  On stage I've been playing the Schultz, older Generations in C and B-flat and the Mellow D. I'm not convinced that the expensive handmade whistles offer any benefit in the smaller sizes but I do have a nice low D Copeland.

You are now touring with Glen Road.  Tell us about this band.

Glen Road is a trio with myself, Mike Dugger on guitar and vocals and a third guest member. We toured last autumn with Brendan Bulger, a great fiddle player from Boston. This spring the guest is Johnny Connolly, an accordion player from Dublin living in Portland. He has just recorded a solo album for Green Linnet. Glen Road has a website at www.glenroadmusic.com. We do a lot of presentations in schools, talking about the music and the instruments. It is a great way to promote Irish music and also helps to secure a lot of our gigs.

I have to say I've been very impressed with the way you are marketing your work.  Your press kit is attractive and beautifully done.  Tell us about
bigplain records. ( http://www.bigplain.com )

There is a lot of Irish music that goes unrecognized in America where a few big names seem to rule. But those bands are really just the tip of the iceberg. A long term goal of big plain records is to change that situation.  But for now, it is just me and my music as I learn the business. A parallel would be Alasdair Fraser's label Culburnie which has released only 27 albums in 20 years, all of them top class. I've been lucky to have the services of a great graphic designer (www.mustdesign.com) and spend a lot of time trying to get my materials just right. You mentioned that straight traditional music isn't the most lucrative genre, so I've tried to pay attention to the business details and present the best image that I can. I find the design work interesting, probably because, like engineering, it is a matter of organizing information in a coherent and efficient way. The townland in Glenullin where I grew up is called Magheramore which translates as 'The Big Plain' but the name also refers to an emphasis on a straightforward approach to both music and business. On the other hand, my sister Clodagh insists that big plain describes 'the realities of your countenance'

Turlach's recordings are available at http://www.bandstore.com .  Visit http://www.bigplain.com  .  I'd also suggest checking with Margaret Tice at Tayberry Music at http://www.tayberry.com

Black & white portrait of Turlach by James Fuller.  Color photo by Ursula Ann Parks Photography. 

Dale Wisely is the Undisputed King of Tinwhistle Internet Journalism and is the founder and leader of Chiff & Fipple: The PostStructural Internet Conglomerate. (Visit the website at http://www.chiffandfipple.com)  For more interviews visit http://www.chiffandfipple.com/interviews.htm

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